From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/30392 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Vladimir Volovich Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Problems with 8-bit headers Date: 26 Apr 2000 10:29:39 +0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87og74hth9.fsf@deneb.cygnus.argh.org> <87snw9deq5.fsf@deneb.cygnus.argh.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035166937 8223 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:22:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:22:17 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from lisa.math.uh.edu (lisa.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.49]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1102AD051F for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:37:12 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by lisa.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAB28727; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 01:37:07 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 26 Apr 2000 01:36:36 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA13484 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 01:36:26 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from relay2.vsu.ru (mail.vsu.ru [62.76.169.17]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84125D051F for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:31:46 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by relay2.vsu.ru (Postfix, from userid 5) id EA06119F9; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:30:47 +0400 (MSD) Original-Received: (from vvv@localhost) by vvv.vsu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA14989; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:29:40 +0400 X-Authentication-Warning: vvv.vsu.ru: vvv set sender to vvv@vvv.vsu.ru using -f Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Florian Weimer's message of "25 Apr 2000 23:59:14 +0200" Original-Lines: 29 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.4 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:30392 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:30392 "FW" == Florian Weimer writes: >> Some features i'd like to see: FW> Impressive list. Why can't all the people of the world simply FW> use UTF-8? Well, it's definitely a good thing (TM), and it already works quite satisfactory with Emacs/Gnus/mule-ucs (except some characters present in UCS are not supported by Emacs' internal encoding). Those features are not really that important (besides perhaps auto-detecting the charset of 8-bit chars in headers). However, there is a bug somewhere in core Emacs which makes it misbehave when i receive messages with 8-bit content-transfer-encoding and characters in the range 0x80--0x9f (which often happens when i receive messages in UTF-8). I store mails in nnmbox backend, and when i receive such a message, i get ENORMOUS time delays when pressing `g' in a group buffer, and article numbering gets broken (displayed number of articles in a group is overestimated), and such things. I think this is because Emacs uses "intelligent" auto-detection algorithm which wants to interpret a `mbox' buffer as if it were in some charset (mbox is opened in raw mode, but this does not help to switch of this "intelligent" behavior, and certain character combinations choke Emacs). This is a long-standing bug which is there for more than a year, but i don't know how to report it... :-( Best regards, -- Vladimir.