From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/52048 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Kevin's gnus-open-server changes Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 13:25:49 +0200 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <84znm67w92.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1051788291 10389 80.91.224.249 (1 May 2003 11:24:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 11:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M591@lists.math.uh.edu Thu May 01 13:24:49 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19BCBF-0002hH-00 for ; Thu, 01 May 2003 13:24:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19BCCJ-00008A-00; Thu, 01 May 2003 06:25:55 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19BCCE-000085-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 01 May 2003 06:25:50 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 53210 invoked by alias); 1 May 2003 11:25:50 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 53205 invoked from network); 1 May 2003 11:25:50 -0000 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (80.91.224.244) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 1 May 2003 11:25:50 -0000 Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19BCKd-000469-00 for ; Thu, 01 May 2003 13:34:31 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 18 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: quimbies.gnus.org Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1051788871 15756 80.91.231.2 (1 May 2003 11:34:31 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 May 2003 11:34:31 GMT Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: Miss Kittin's _Radio Caroline Volume 1_: "Alexander Robotnick - Dance Boy Dance" Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEVbCBX08fCJGiEoGiHm 0Md9S0Wug3H9/f0jCxNbHCJ28pXEAAACS0lEQVR4nHXUz2vbMBQH8IdHhnYMM+nViLm0t1ARsI8F kbDjksokx2yy7j10uQqbgnQrMRrWf7snxdRuS0USgj589ct6hvknDU6fNPjrGWNl2TkhHH6FqBSX kp/gyXfYfLfC7p07CEEVr6REYLGZttVtuwSgueLqA3hIaPUBbAAMyPQ9MHNGqB/eQ8kKn1B6+3Wh 5HEC2nd9ucKfAHwC1ne70nV9P1soNUJrAzSuKxDW6n5MMOv7w50fYJIobNfv7rpl0ScLPgFjbPel 07osYLbg6xEYJojR2hKYrTkf5yiM9RjTFiCfQmFIkmlDdAL0egKFNgah6DVu/ZpzuRlAAyZudE8a GoEPgI+BEHqjmcEA/cHTy1AtMwAaKLG9aVDyh5SnAcxSI+hvvdtjIqNCpusrBINPIQvwXO8xoclB 1fIUAQKAWYne2KaBfV3/ioD/M1wrWYkW001z+PNz8xjBvWQJaFup5968NI2vv0fQNBe/aQYrVQtR lOdzLtf3F6BUUAoiwM5Y+gphUzRrK6VUrfamrK7SUwAYwDuBEVEYJvl8PgHmRB4u9Y7JYzqBmRDq 0mQojxHca//mUh9PEPopINRKYRlUR+wOk9MBwqqUx0mOQyL2Z+ScYy0p/MirodQuAXIOa4pzvAXj 6ioOpvgUMmJK75zH0fCiTwBIy7BIyyBqksjA2FDKVf2vHiGcLDF4IGJLt/VkjjxOEQLbuI5qMw4F JkI8xG01zoEBvNLeh1fGm30gsNKhnG/zXIQCDGf1OHkV4d3k+JDmIfMfV11sHdkoULgAAAAASUVO RK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.090021 (Oort Gnus v0.21) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:jrhLsZFTTL3i1L/Ucub4z1MeHfY= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52048 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52048 kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (Kai Großjohann) writes: > But I understand that there was a reason for Kevin's changes. So > what was the reason? Gnus' unpluggedness is quite different from what you get if you click on the "go offline" button in Free Agent or other offline newsreaders. There "go offline" means "I now no longer have a network connections, so just do everything locally". In Gnus it means "inhibit the servers that are covered by the Agent from opening network connections". Kevin's changes made Gnus behave more like one might expect, but it's something that can be hashed out in No Gnus. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen