From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/51470 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Pre-sale leftovers Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:32:33 +0200 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <86fzok4xq7.fsf@jochen.rijnh.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1050420169 24279 80.91.224.249 (15 Apr 2003 15:22:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 15:22:49 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M10@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Apr 15 17:22:47 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 195SFR-0006BS-00 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 17:21:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 195SEo-0007Th-00; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 10:20:46 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 195Mnr-00069f-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 04:32:35 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 96345 invoked by alias); 15 Apr 2003 09:32:35 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 96340 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2003 09:32:35 -0000 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (80.91.224.244) by gnus.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 2003 09:32:35 -0000 Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 195Mox-0006sf-00 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:33:43 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 28 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: quimbies.gnus.org Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1050399223 25952 80.91.231.2 (15 Apr 2003 09:33:43 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Apr 2003 09:33:43 GMT Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: Miss Kittin's _Radio Caroline Volume 1_: "Conrad Black - Greyscale For Slow Building" Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEVbCBX08fCJGiEoGiHm 0Md9S0Wug3H9/f0jCxNbHCJ28pXEAAACS0lEQVR4nHXUz2vbMBQH8IdHhnYMM+nViLm0t1ARsI8F kbDjksokx2yy7j10uQqbgnQrMRrWf7snxdRuS0USgj589ct6hvknDU6fNPjrGWNl2TkhHH6FqBSX kp/gyXfYfLfC7p07CEEVr6REYLGZttVtuwSgueLqA3hIaPUBbAAMyPQ9MHNGqB/eQ8kKn1B6+3Wh 5HEC2nd9ucKfAHwC1ne70nV9P1soNUJrAzSuKxDW6n5MMOv7w50fYJIobNfv7rpl0ScLPgFjbPel 07osYLbg6xEYJojR2hKYrTkf5yiM9RjTFiCfQmFIkmlDdAL0egKFNgah6DVu/ZpzuRlAAyZudE8a GoEPgI+BEHqjmcEA/cHTy1AtMwAaKLG9aVDyh5SnAcxSI+hvvdtjIqNCpusrBINPIQvwXO8xoclB 1fIUAQKAWYne2KaBfV3/ioD/M1wrWYkW001z+PNz8xjBvWQJaFup5968NI2vv0fQNBe/aQYrVQtR lOdzLtf3F6BUUAoiwM5Y+gphUzRrK6VUrfamrK7SUwAYwDuBEVEYJvl8PgHmRB4u9Y7JYzqBmRDq 0mQojxHca//mUh9PEPopINRKYRlUR+wOk9MBwqqUx0mOQyL2Z+ScYy0p/MirodQuAXIOa4pzvAXj 6ioOpvgUMmJK75zH0fCiTwBIy7BIyyBqksjA2FDKVf2vHiGcLDF4IGJLt/VkjjxOEQLbuI5qMw4F JkI8xG01zoEBvNLeh1fGm30gsNKhnG/zXIQCDGf1OHkV4d3k+JDmIfMfV11sHdkoULgAAAAASUVO RK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.090017 (Oort Gnus v0.17) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:XaaoqKuYeyCI4hXBuhlSNIHGkNY= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:51470 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:51470 Jochen Küpper writes: > In that case the money really arrives I'd say it worked. But it took > quite a few minutes... Yes, it's certainly not ideal. *sigh* > What again where the alternatives, and why don't you use them? > I.e. what is the problem with simply accepting credit cards? To take Visa I have to do the following: 1) Fill in the Visa slip manually with name, number, expiration, date, and amount 2) *Phone* Visa and beep at them (which I've written a program to do, but it still requires me to sit there hittin RET for 30 seconds 3) Fill in the auth code 4) Send it all off to Visa by mail Now, all of this is OK except the 2) bit, which is really boring after you've done it a hundred times. And Visa doesn't seem to offer any on-line (or scriptable) interface to the auth stuff for smaller entities. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen