From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/41268 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Make Gnus emit more errors for unknown servers? Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 06:26:23 -0500 Organization: What did you have in mind? A short, blunt, human pyramid? Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035176689 5185 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 05:04:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 05:04:49 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 14773 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2001 11:27:22 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 31 Dec 2001 11:27:22 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16L0ai-0007s5-00; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 05:26:52 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 31 Dec 2001 05:26:43 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA10137 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 05:26:32 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 14753 invoked by alias); 31 Dec 2001 11:26:31 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 14748 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2001 11:26:31 -0000 Original-Received: from multivac.student.cwru.edu (HELO multivac.cwru.edu) (qmail-remote@129.22.96.25) by gnus.org with SMTP; 31 Dec 2001 11:26:31 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 1684 invoked by uid 500); 31 Dec 2001 11:26:45 -0000 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 29 Dec 2001 23:41:32 +0100") Mail-Copies-To: nobody Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/20.7 (i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:41268 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:41268 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Let's say you have the (nnml "" (...)) server in your secondary select > methods. Your groups will put the "nnml:" server in the select method > slot, and everything works fine. Then the user removes that server > from the secondary select methods, and Gnus then knows nothing about > how to select that group. > > Wouldn't it be nice if that couldn't happen? If Gnus were to store > the server in `gnus-server-alist' (or some other variable), then the > user could remove anything from the list of secondary servers, and > nothing would break. You're talking about defending against modifying gnus-secondary-select-methods within a Gnus session, right? I think Kai is talking about editing the setting between sessions. The next time you start Gnus, and Gnus finds a group whose server is missing, it should not be automatically created, because Gnus doesn't have enough information to do it correctly. Or do you mean that secondary servers should be stored in .newsrc.eld just in case they go missing? In that case, when would a server ever be removed from there? paul