From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/35806 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: A road map for Oort Gnus Date: 14 Apr 2001 15:19:06 +0200 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Message-ID: References: <20010414065758.E47355@kens.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035171496 5046 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:38:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 10046 invoked by alias); 14 Apr 2001 13:21:10 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 10041 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2001 13:21:10 -0000 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (195.204.10.139) by gnus.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 2001 13:21:10 -0000 Original-Received: (from news@localhost) by quimby.gnus.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA07518 for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2001 15:21:11 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: quimbies.gnus.org Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 987254470 5270 195.204.10.148 (14 Apr 2001 13:21:10 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Apr 2001 13:21:10 GMT Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: Uri Caine Ensemble, La Gaia Scienza's _Love Fugue: Robert Schumann_: "Im =?iso-8859-1?q?Wunderschw=F6nen?= Monat Mai" User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort Gnus v0.03) Emacs/20.6 X-Face: &w!^oO~dS|}-P0~ge{$c!h\ writes: > It isn't. Count the German-speaking ones. A couple of people in the > de.ALL hierarchy have been very, ummm... noisy over the last few years. Gee. I wonder who that could be. :-) > And with sites like http://go.to/wingnus/, Gnus is becoming usable for > Wintendo users, too. Gosh. I had no idea. "Genug davon, sich belehren zu lassen, daß Gnus der Newsreader der Götter sei?" :-) > > Even so, I think Gnus should focus on ease of (initial) use. Ideally, > > someone who has never used Gnus before should be able to say `M-x > > gnus' and just having things work. That's not realistic, but I think > > it should be realistic to have the user spend less time than setting > > up, say, Outlook Express. > > Why is it unrealistic? If M-x gnus checked for "gnus-never-used-before" > and opened a simplified version of M-x customize gnus, it would work. Yes, that's what I meant. It's unrealistic to have `M-x gnus' work without gathering information from the user first. > > These are quite general thoughts on Gnusiness, and I think there are > > probably many ways to achieve these goals. (If that's what we want to > > do. We may, perhaps, not want to do this.) Kai has suggested > > detecting whether the user is a first-time user, and then guiding her > > through the setup process. Per has suggested setup wizards. > > That was /ME/!!!1 *harrump* It's still a very valid point, though. :-) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen