* Couldn't open server?
@ 1999-02-19 15:46 Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-02-19 17:20 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Dmitry Yaitskov @ 1999-02-19 15:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
During the last couple of days, it occurred several times that when I
tried to enter a "regular" news group in gnus, it *immediately*
(i.e. apparently without trying anything) said "couldn't open
server". Quitting and restarting gnus seems to fix the situation. I
*think* that in all those situations, my news server had been really
unavailable for some time before - could it be that gnus "remembered"
that it could not open the server last time, and didn't even try
again?
--
Cheers,
-Dima.
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* Re: Couldn't open server?
1999-02-19 15:46 Couldn't open server? Dmitry Yaitskov
@ 1999-02-19 17:20 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-02-19 19:11 ` Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-02-21 15:35 ` Dmitry Yaitskov
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1999-02-19 17:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
Dmitry Yaitskov <dimas@home.com> writes:
> could it be that gnus "remembered" that it could not open the server
> last time, and didn't even try again?
Yes. Go to the server buffer and look at the status of the servers
there. The "denied" servers can be un-er-uhm-undenied by pressing
`R'.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Couldn't open server?
1999-02-19 17:20 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1999-02-19 19:11 ` Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-02-19 19:38 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-02-21 15:35 ` Dmitry Yaitskov
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From: Dmitry Yaitskov @ 1999-02-19 19:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Dmitry Yaitskov <dimas@home.com> writes:
>
> > could it be that gnus "remembered" that it could not open the server
> > last time, and didn't even try again?
>
> Yes. Go to the server buffer and look at the status of the servers
> there. The "denied" servers can be un-er-uhm-undenied by pressing
> `R'.
I see. What is the "server" buffer? Or rather, how can I go there?
Also, is it possible to modify this behavior on a per-server basis?
Thanks.
--
Cheers,
-Dima.
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* Re: Couldn't open server?
1999-02-19 19:11 ` Dmitry Yaitskov
@ 1999-02-19 19:38 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-02-19 20:26 ` Dmitry Yaitskov
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1999-02-19 19:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
Dmitry Yaitskov <dimas@home.com> writes:
> I see. What is the "server" buffer? Or rather, how can I go there?
`^' in the group buffer.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Couldn't open server?
1999-02-19 19:38 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1999-02-19 20:26 ` Dmitry Yaitskov
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From: Dmitry Yaitskov @ 1999-02-19 20:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Dmitry Yaitskov <dimas@home.com> writes:
>
> > I see. What is the "server" buffer? Or rather, how can I go there?
>
> `^' in the group buffer.
Thanks.
--
Cheers,
-Dima.
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* Re: Couldn't open server?
1999-02-19 17:20 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-02-19 19:11 ` Dmitry Yaitskov
@ 1999-02-21 15:35 ` Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-02-26 6:55 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Dmitry Yaitskov @ 1999-02-21 15:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Dmitry Yaitskov <dimas@home.com> writes:
>
> > could it be that gnus "remembered" that it could not open the server
> > last time, and didn't even try again?
>
> Yes. Go to the server buffer and look at the status of the servers
> there. The "denied" servers can be un-er-uhm-undenied by pressing
> `R'.
A thought: it would be nice if Gnus did one of 2 things: either (1)
didn't try to open servers which were denied last time upon pressing
g in the group buffer, but tried nonetheless if asked specifically to
open a particular group, or (2) kept track of last time the server was
really denied, and if that time exceeded a certain amount (e.g. 2
hours or something), reset the "denied" flag. Otherwise, with Gnus
constantly running, I for example now and again have to go to the
server buffer and un-deny my news server (which is not too reliable,
unfortunately)...
--
Cheers,
-Dima.
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* Re: Couldn't open server?
1999-02-21 15:35 ` Dmitry Yaitskov
@ 1999-02-26 6:55 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1999-02-26 6:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
Dmitry Yaitskov <dimas@home.com> writes:
> A thought: it would be nice if Gnus did one of 2 things: either (1)
> didn't try to open servers which were denied last time upon pressing
> g in the group buffer, but tried nonetheless if asked specifically to
> open a particular group,
Gnus does this. `M-g' on a group will try to activate the group even
if the server was previously denied.
> or (2) kept track of last time the server was
> really denied, and if that time exceeded a certain amount (e.g. 2
> hours or something), reset the "denied" flag. Otherwise, with Gnus
> constantly running, I for example now and again have to go to the
> server buffer and un-deny my news server (which is not too reliable,
> unfortunately)...
I don't really like "automatic fixes", because the user is usually
more knowledgeable about these things than a program can ever be.
Trying to re-contact a server can be a time-consuming task if the
network connection is wonky.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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