Pop weirdness in p0.77

Pop weirdness in p0.77

[Matt Pharr]

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All was fine in p0.76, but I'm getting the following bug out with p0.77.
Here is the value of my nnmail-spool-file; I've tried all three of the
below values for :port in an effort to get things working again, but no
luck with any of them.  I've tried to poke through the code and understand
which of the changes caused this, but I'm not sure if it's pilot error on
my end with the nnmail-spool-file variable or if something broke and my
elisp skills are a little sketchy anyway.

(setq nnmail-spool-file
      '((file :path "/var/mail/mmp")
        (pop :server "mail.slip.net"
;;	     :port "pop"
;;	     :port 110
;;           :port "110"
             :user "foo")))


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-matt
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Matt Pharr                                   mmp@graphics.stanford.edu
<URL:http://graphics.stanford.edu/~mmp>

Re: Pop weirdness in p0.77

[Jack Vinson]

>>>>> "MP" == Matt Pharr <mmp@Graphics.Stanford.EDU> writes:

MP> All was fine in p0.76, but I'm getting the following bug out with p0.77.
MP> Here is the value of my nnmail-spool-file; I've tried all three of the
MP> below values for :port in an effort to get things working again, but no
MP> luck with any of them.  I've tried to poke through the code and understand
MP> which of the changes caused this, but I'm not sure if it's pilot error on
MP> my end with the nnmail-spool-file variable or if something broke and my
MP> elisp skills are a little sketchy anyway.

I reported something similar, but I managed to send the message to the
"ding-owner" instead of plain "ding."

Basically, in the new versions (mail-source) on an NT version of emacs
(20.3.1), I cannot retrieve my mail.  This was also reported by Alfred
Correira in <un2269y3s.fsf@GlobeSet.Com>.


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Zippy: My mind is a potato field...

Re: Pop weirdness in p0.77

[Aaron M. Ucko]

It's a bug in the source.  Try this patch (which I've already
submitted to Lars):

--- mail-source.el~	Sat Feb 20 16:35:28 1999
+++ mail-source.el	Sat Feb 20 17:29:36 1999
@@ -353,7 +353,7 @@
 		     (if (eq authentication 'apop) 'apop 'pass)))
 		(save-excursion (pop3-movemail mail-source-crash-box))))))
       (if result
-	  (progn
+	  (prog1
 	    (mail-source-callback callback server)
 	    (when prescript
 	      (if (fboundp prescript)

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Aaron M. Ucko, KB1CJC <amu@mit.edu> (finger amu@monk.mit.edu)

Re: Pop weirdness in p0.77

[Brian Gorka]

>>>>> "Aaron" == Aaron M Ucko <amu@mit.edu> writes:

    Aaron> It's a bug in the source.  Try this patch (which I've
    Aaron> already submitted to Lars):

This fixed my problem.

-- 
Brian Gorka
gorkab@cyberpass.net

Re: Pop weirdness in p0.77

[Shane Holder]

>>>>> "AU" == Aaron M Ucko <amu@MIT.EDU> writes:

  AU> It's a bug in the source.  Try this patch (which I've already
  AU> submitted to Lars):

Thanks, I was having this problem also.  But now, how do I recover my
"lost" e-mail?  I have mail that is in my nnfolder:/Mail/mail file but
when I enter the mail group through gnus I don't see the mail, but if
I just use emacs to edit the file I can see that there is e-mail that
I haven't read.  I even tried the C-u prefix for entering the
directory thinking that it might have gotten marked read but it just
doesn't show up.

Thanks,
Shane

Re: Pop weirdness in p0.77

[Matt Pharr]

Shane Holder <holder@rsn.hp.com> writes:
> Thanks, I was having this problem also.  But now, how do I recover my
> "lost" e-mail?  I have mail that is in my nnfolder:/Mail/mail file but
> when I enter the mail group through gnus I don't see the mail, but if
> I just use emacs to edit the file I can see that there is e-mail that
> I haven't read.  I even tried the C-u prefix for entering the
> directory thinking that it might have gotten marked read but it just
> doesn't show up.

Now *that's* weird.  I (and other people) have seen problems where it was
necessary to do a M-x nnml-generate-nov-databases to get new mail to appear 
in nnml groups.  (This only happened to me once with 0.77, most of the time 
it has been fine.)  The fact that that is also happening in nnfolder groups 
is, well, um, no doubt some sort of useful clue.

-matt
-- 
Matt Pharr                                   mmp@graphics.stanford.edu
<URL:http://graphics.stanford.edu/~mmp>

Re: Pop weirdness in p0.77

[Neil Crellin]

Brian Gorka <gorkab@cyberpass.net> writes:
> >>>>> "Aaron" == Aaron M Ucko <amu@mit.edu> writes:
> 
>     Aaron> It's a bug in the source.  Try this patch (which I've
>     Aaron> already submitted to Lars):
> 
> This fixed my problem.

Didn't fix mine, unfortunately. (+ 0 nil) is still a bug even with
this patch.

Re: Pop weirdness in p0.77

[Neil Crellin]

Neil Crellin <neilc@Tesserae.COM> writes:
> Brian Gorka <gorkab@cyberpass.net> writes:
> > >>>>> "Aaron" == Aaron M Ucko <amu@mit.edu> writes:
> > 
> >     Aaron> It's a bug in the source.  Try this patch (which I've
> >     Aaron> already submitted to Lars):
> > 
> > This fixed my problem.
> 
> Didn't fix mine, unfortunately. (+ 0 nil) is still a bug even with
> this patch.

Me stupid. Byte-compiled .elc masked fixed .el. Patch indeed fixes bug
for me.

-Neil

Re: Pop weirdness in p0.77

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Matt Pharr <mmp@Graphics.Stanford.EDU> writes:

> Now *that's* weird.  I (and other people) have seen problems where it was
> necessary to do a M-x nnml-generate-nov-databases to get new mail to appear 
> in nnml groups.  (This only happened to me once with 0.77, most of the time 
> it has been fine.)  The fact that that is also happening in nnfolder groups 
> is, well, um, no doubt some sort of useful clue.

It kinda sounds like the active file isn't written properly...

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(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Pop weirdness in p0.77

[Neil Crellin]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Matt Pharr <mmp@Graphics.Stanford.EDU> writes:
> 
> > Now *that's* weird.  I (and other people) have seen problems where it was
> > necessary to do a M-x nnml-generate-nov-databases to get new mail to appear 
> > in nnml groups.  (This only happened to me once with 0.77, most of the time 
> > it has been fine.)  The fact that that is also happening in nnfolder groups 
> > is, well, um, no doubt some sort of useful clue.
> 
> It kinda sounds like the active file isn't written properly...

I periodically see a different number of new articles when I enter a
group than the *Group* summary said were there. One time I took a
close look at the .overview file and found it'd just skipped one of
the articles it'd written into the directory, ie articles 1546, 1547,
1548 and 1549 existed, with both 1548 and 1549 newly fetched messages,
but the .overview file had entries for 1546, 1547 and 1549, no 1548.
I watch carefully for this now, and I do nnml-generate-nov-databases-1
and reenter the group when I notice it and find the article marked
read once it's finally added to the .overview. Be nice to track this
down. 

-- 
Neil Crellin <neilc@wallaby.cc>

Re: Pop weirdness in p0.77

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Neil Crellin <neilc@Tesserae.COM> writes:

> I periodically see a different number of new articles when I enter a
> group than the *Group* summary said were there. One time I took a
> close look at the .overview file and found it'd just skipped one of
> the articles it'd written into the directory, ie articles 1546, 1547,
> 1548 and 1549 existed, with both 1548 and 1549 newly fetched messages,
> but the .overview file had entries for 1546, 1547 and 1549, no 1548.

I'll try to look into it.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen