From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/14849 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: 5.6.4/slow load/notes on nnkiboze Date: 31 Mar 1998 21:36:12 -0800 Organization: none Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035153974 18607 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:46:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:46:14 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from xemacs.org (xemacs.cs.uiuc.edu [128.174.252.16]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA22581 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:34:43 -0800 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (root@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by xemacs.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA05627 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:39:02 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAH22864; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:39:09 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:37:32 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from claymore.vcinet.com (claymore.vcinet.com [208.205.12.23]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA22851 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:37:24 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 4626 invoked by uid 504); 1 Apr 1998 05:37:11 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 4615 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1998 05:36:52 -0000 Original-Received: from pm9-9.sba1.avtel.net (HELO org.com) (207.71.222.209) by claymore.vcinet.com with SMTP; 1 Apr 1998 05:36:52 -0000 Original-Received: (from reader@localhost) by org.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA00420; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:36:12 -0800 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.6.4/Emacs 20.2 Original-Lines: 93 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:14849 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:14849 Subject: Gnus-5.6.4/load time& notes on nnkiboze Newsgroups: emacs.ding Gcc: nnml:out Any one else noticing a marked increase in time it takes to load gnus with 5.6.4? I get the 'loading agent' sign for about 26 seconds. Previous version 5.6.2 was less than half that maybe, 8-10 seconds. No changes in .gnus or .emacs. I have also found that if either of these lines: (setq gnus-read-active-file nil) (set-variable (quote gnus-read-active-file) nil) Is active in .gnus then gnus will not start and throws this backtrace: Signaling: (file-error "Cannot open load file" "nil") require(nil) gnus-server-opened((nil "")) gnus-activate-group("nntp+news.silcom.com:comp.unix.admin" scan) gnus-get-unread-articles(nil) gnus-setup-news(nil nil nil) 8< snip (byte code snipped) gnus-1(nil nil nil) gnus(nil) call-interactively(gnus) execute-extended-command(nil) * call-interactively(execute-extended-command) I have had the line "(setq gnus-read-active-file nil)" in .gnus through several releases but now gnus will not start with it in there. Work has been done on nnkiboze in this release and I understand more has been done in the unreleased 5.6.5. My experiences with nnkiboze have been a less than satisfactory. I have noticed some bugs and have sent reports on them. In brief here is what I am seeing: create a test kiboze group Run it against a single nntp group with an easy assignment to find in subject line. run M-x nnkiboze-generate-groups Full nntp read takes place Kibo finds 10 articles filling the bill. Good show Now try to do some real work: Create another kiboze group assign it to four of the emacs groups give it a regex against the body of 'print\|printing' run M-x nnkiboze-generate-groups full nntp read kibo find 35 articles but when I attempt to access them gnus won't let me. And says: > Signaling: (wrong-type-argument arrayp nil) > nnkiboze-request-article(1 "bibo" "^comp\\.emacs$\\|^comp\\.emacs > \\.xemacs$\\|^gnu\\.emacs\\.gnus$\\|^gnu\\.emacs\\.help$" nil) > gnus-request-article(1 "nnkiboze:bibo") > gnus-score-body((((touched nil) ("body" ...))) "body" 729479 729472 nil) > gnus-score-headers(("/home/reader/News/nnkiboze:bibo.SCORE") nil) > gnus-possibly-score-headers() > gnus-summary-read-group-1("nnkiboze:bibo" nil t nil nil) > gnus-summary-read-group("nnkiboze:bibo" nil t nil nil) > gnus-group-read-group(nil t) > gnus-group-select-group(nil) > * call-interactively(gnus-group-select-group) > Then I notice that bibo has also put thirtyfive new articles in the previous kibo group that is supposed to be looking for something else. And there are the articles that contain the regex 'print\|printing' In the wrong kiboze group. Two major complaints (aside from the obvious one) 1) The regex used to guide kiboze to which groups to search is stored in the .newsrc.eld file (after saving happens) making it difficult to edit since .newsrc.eld is confusing as hell anyway and not a file you want to tromp around in. 2) I couldn't seem to run kiboze sucessfully in agent mode unplugged. Which would be by far the best place to run it because the postings are on disk and can be searched much more quickly. It seem to be working but when the search is over gnus won't let me access anything until I get plugged again, and then can't access the kiboze group anyway. What have other peoples experience been with kiboze? -- Harry Putnam reader@newsguy.com