From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/77747 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: POP3 UIDL - pop3-leave-mail-on-server Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 17:08:26 +0100 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Message-ID: References: <87ipvwl1nx.wl%claudio.bley@gmail.com> <87hbbewr7o.wl%claudio.bley@gmail.com> <87ei6g0yph.wl%claudio.bley@gmail.com> <87lj0ne4og.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1300206739 27369 80.91.229.12 (15 Mar 2011 16:32:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:32:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26071@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Mar 15 17:32:13 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PzXAK-0002yW-U9 for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 17:32:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PzXAJ-0005Nl-Kg; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:32:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PzXAI-0005NP-0E for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:32:10 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PzXAD-00080U-J7 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:32:09 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PzXAC-0002Hk-SK for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 17:32:04 +0100 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PzXAC-0002tb-LV for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 17:32:04 +0100 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 17:32:04 +0100 Original-Received: from larsi by cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 17:32:04 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 34 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: Massive Attack's _Blue Lines_ User-Agent: Gnus/5.110014 (No Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:QRLF655y8HDva2kyehwdZ66fcAo= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:77747 gmane.emacs.devel:137242 Archived-At: Reiner Steib writes: > | ;; We can't use the UILD support from XEmacs mail-lib or cvs.m17n.org: > | ;; http://thread.gmane.org/v9lld8fml4.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de > | ;; http://thread.gmane.org/b9yy8hzy9ej.fsf@jpl.org > | ;; Any volunteer to re-implement this? Right. So pop3 can't leave mail on the server because nobody has bothered to reimplement the UIDL library? How much work could that be? > BTW, I don't know why you removed the corresponding warnings from > `pop3-movemail' with this commit: > > ,----[ git log - gnus/lisp/pop3.el ] > | commit 119a867afc587c9261730362a6478fc3801df1b5 It didn't seem like a message that it's relevant to flash to the user each and every time they use pop3. >> And why not just use IMAP instead? > > Some mail providers don't offer IMAP (for free). > >> If it's a popular way to read email, I can certainly have a peek at >> implementing an nnpop backend for Gnus... Since nobody has spoken up and said "yes, I would use nnpop", I'm guessing that there aren't many users (if any) that would still prefer to read mail (and leave it there) from their pop servers instead of from their IMAP servers. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen