From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/72340 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: A few basic nnimap problems Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:53:19 +0200 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Message-ID: References: <87aamz17w0.fsf@nemi.mork.no> <8762xn151w.fsf@nemi.mork.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1285872850 5052 80.91.229.12 (30 Sep 2010 18:54:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:54:10 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M20713@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Sep 30 20:54:08 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1OGZ-0001mE-8A for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:54:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P1OGE-0006Il-SJ; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:53:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P1OGD-0006IX-1C for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:53:41 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P1OG8-0000is-Le for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:53:40 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1P1OG7-00036c-00 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:53:35 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1OG3-0001ZW-0l for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:53:31 +0200 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no ([84.215.34.171]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:53:31 +0200 Original-Received: from larsi by cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:53:31 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 40 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEUrAgFFBwbBiGX34bRg EAyuVi16Lx0XAADAGEqpAAACM0lEQVQ4jW2UTXPbIBCGl5lMdYUMdc9Fo/wAmNyjFHOvEnS2U9he nVz09/susmLH052xhfdhP3hZi2I0mpaTimI1T0OJiblEipVHQ0RqBTkXPBvYO9gDiF1BXI3is4Ah aiL7H+DyHLWyN8CH4OE5GrP/AkJYwauJe855NM02IC2S2XPh5kZFgL4PLqaI+nbUCq3TGcCcSZlH stjcSd/jmsp7Z4RwxcdOA9SQCC/tYrWDIFhVbDwio3n2gwCQuzwhaX7B1xDJ3AeJGFHP7KfWeC9t krGiWpTuY3xrYJJ2yCjp267H3ffeZTcIIU2qbRYrtUI1dDD1AkgCwLCAVg7iuCH3ZASIsmlUo4Ey AHnI0xmQqrWoOGrT7gRGy7KcSJ/ucKcaxNh0Bh2APRBXLscjH38jlxtmAIS8JyZOh8Lf7A9OPK1A UnWkrVz6Ij8UpmOrcYKW5QmKQxbTfcfx1hpyNUjFjCLMf5e3HsJIvAAlQ9ctq9kpPAKcNrD54dg5 avuJhC7LhayeK9+GzBrR3YJFbakavA48e5VuD30JpTYjctYZs2uL3qIoXOwB/yeM7lrxGoRh8m7m uSX8AvzkB+beP3U3QMat1Bz8oVuo/wIe8+tORvFnR3Jj7kKZja3SCIAM+WZzTEfMAyaugU9/5ijT V+c/N2AuIy7RwhUoXQMEdO8OL4b0QvLm+KxRTLd8hIfE6Y0iyAbmESf7FTxjiAiD/gmKhhZofeAd gI2pXgV8iDSvaf4HqqsVIbgJSecAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: Hector Zazou & Swara's _In the House of Mirrors_: "Zannat" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ArVrqX8aN6DsX23xgHSoguQG/XU= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:72340 Archived-At: Bjørn Mork writes: >> I think imaps is probably more popular these days than imap + starttls. > > really? Anyway, I still expect an imap client to connect to the imap > port by default. Just as I expect my browser to connect to port 80 by > default, although 443 might become more popular over time. I expect my mail client to default to using whatever is the most likely default, and not worry my little head about port numbers and other rilly technical stuff. > I wondered about that, so I looked at the documentation which had an > example with the quote. So it did. Fixed now. > Anyway, with only this in ~/.gnus: > > (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.gmane.org")) > (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '( > (nnimap "mail.mork.no" > (nnimap-stream starttls))) > ) > > I get: > > Warning: Opening nnimap server on mail.mork.no...failed: ; Denied server nnimap+mail.mork.no; Opening nnimap server on mail.mork.no...failed: ; Unable to open server nnimap+mail.mork.no due to: Buffer *nnimap mail.mork.no nil *nntpd** has no process This means that your starttls stuff doesn't work at all, which isn't surprising. I don't think the default starttls thing will work by default for many people. We have to clean up the tls/starttls stuff. I think tls.el seems like a more modern approach. Could we adjust it to also allow starttls in addition to tls, and then just get rid of starttls.el? Anybody? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen