From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/35677 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Georg C. F. Greve" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Question about mail archive Date: 07 Apr 2001 17:56:16 +0200 Organization: GNU Project Sender: "Georg C. F. Greve" Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035171382 4385 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:36:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:36:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 21685 invoked by alias); 7 Apr 2001 15:57:26 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 21680 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2001 15:57:25 -0000 Original-Received: from mail-ffm-p.arcor-ip.de (HELO mail.arcor-ip.de) (145.253.2.10) by gnus.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 2001 15:57:25 -0000 Original-Received: from fusebox.gnu-hamburg (212.144.240.17) by mail.arcor-ip.de; 7 Apr 2001 17:56:59 +0200 Original-Received: from reason.gnu-hamburg (root@reason.gnu-hamburg [10.129.4.1]) by fusebox.gnu-hamburg (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f37Fuvu31757; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:56:57 +0200 Original-Received: (from greve@localhost) by reason.gnu-hamburg (8.11.2/8.11.2/Debian 8.11.2-1) id f37FuKe03901; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:56:20 +0200 Original-To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) X-Home-Page: http://www.gnu.org/people/greve.html X-PGP-Affinity: will accept encrypted messages for GNU Privacy Guard X-PGP-Fingerprint: 2D68 D553 70E5 CCF9 75F4 9CC9 6EF8 AFC2 8657 4ACA In-Reply-To: (Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE's message of "07 Apr 2001 17:30:56 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) Emacs/20.7 Original-Lines: 78 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35677 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35677 --==-=-= Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable || On 07 Apr 2001 17:30:56 +0200 || Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Gro=DFjohann) wrote:=20 >> I feel that the mail-archiving could be more elegant somehow, but >> I cannot put my finger on it or tell you how I would change it. Oh >> well... kg> I just leave old messages in the normal mail groups. (I use kg> nnml.) Then Gnus just reads the .overview file when you enter a kg> group, but otherwise the many messages are not a problem. Hm. Maybe I should start using nnml, but them I'll need to make sure I'm not losing mail in the process. kg> When a group contains 3,000 old messages, say, I move the old kg> messages to a *.A group (`A' for archive). Also nnml.=20=20 So you have your archives in nnml, too?=20 kg> Works well for me. But the volume is rarely so high that I have kg> to do it more often than every half year or so. Hm... I don't have a big problem with archives in one file per month, it works reasonably well and is fast enough for when you need to access the archives, it seems.=20 Although I should really investigate how to make the summary show the Recipient instead of the Sender for the archives of mails I sent...=20 My preferred way to use it would normally be to have the incoming groups as nnml, delete spam and things that are not important in the long run, keep things I need to deal with in the groups until it's done and move the interesting things/things I replied to to an archive group. It should be possible to access the archive in a way that I ONLY get mail I wrote or mail I received, but also that I can have them displayed threaded. I fear this is a little too complex/complicated for any single program, though... :-) But I have a few questions about the nnml Backend: It is better suited for NFS, right? How are the message file-names determined? Simply incremental? I'm asking this because it might provide a solution for the main problem I'm always facing that isn't solved satisfactory yet. I have two machines I usually read/write my mail on, my machine at home and my laptop. Both machines should be able to become the "primary" mail host when being disconnected and receive mail even if the other machine is down for a while. If they synchronize, they should synchronize their archives and their normal mail groups with all flags so I know on both machines which mail I already replied to and which has been dealt with. Currently I'm using the rather crude solution that mail is automatically delivered to BOTH machines (to the laptop via UUCP), I "unison" the ~/News tree where I save things and put the whole ~/Mail/mail directory structure of each machine into a ~/Mail/ tree on the other machine. My .gnus file adds the tree of the other machine based on the name of the machine gnus is running on.=20 This is ugly but makes sure nothing gets lost. Everything is kept doubly... but flags are lost. If you can think of a better way, let me know, I'd be really glad to hear about it. Regards & thanks, Georg =2D-=20 Georg C. F. Greve Free Software Foundation Europe (http://fsfeurope.org) Brave GNU World (http://brave-gnu-world.org) --=-=-=-- --==-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.5 and Gnu Privacy Guard iD8DBQE6zzikbvivwoZXSsoRAgHTAJ4hEk6QegEOCGkRm764lJwcLMgI3gCcDd3W HXG94aDFuBfgFqYP86tUTRY= =W50Y -----END PGP MESSAGE----- --==-=-=--