From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/25803 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Attaching notes to messages Date: 10 Oct 1999 17:15:38 -0700 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87iu4ffek7.fsf@senstation.vvf.fi> <87zoxqre0n.fsf@senstation.vvf.fi> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035163124 15941 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:18:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:18:44 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from spinoza.math.uh.edu (spinoza.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.18]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA08884 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:22:02 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by spinoza.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAB05725; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:18:23 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:18:24 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA18443 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:18:14 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mail.networkone.net (qmailr@mail.networkone.net [209.144.112.75]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA08833 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:16:16 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (qmail 20550 invoked from network); 11 Oct 1999 00:16:14 -0000 Original-Received: from pm3-5-13.la.networkone.net (HELO satellite.local.lan) (reader@209.144.125.13) by mail.networkone.net with SMTP; 11 Oct 1999 00:16:14 -0000 Original-Received: (from reader@localhost) by satellite.local.lan (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA18857; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 17:16:07 -0700 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Hannu Koivisto's message of "11 Oct 1999 02:29:12 +0300" User-Agent: Gnus/5.070097 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.97) Emacs/20.3 Original-Lines: 68 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:25803 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:25803 Hannu Koivisto writes: > Harry Putnam writes: > > | Editing is also possibe in News groups with `C-u e' > > Hmm, what exactly happens in this case? Does the article get saved > to a local disk like in the case of marking it persistent? It just allows the user to Edit a News article and then (manually) save it to whatever, nnml group etc. It saves the step of having to save it first then move to group where saved to edit. > |. . . . . . . . . . . . . then save that portion > | to file with M-x save-to-file. > | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ append to file > | Remove the annotation with C-w then attach it with 'C-c a' > ^^^^^ C-c C-a > Are these SAVE-TO-FILE and `C-c a' things part of your code? I > can't see the connection and, on the other hand, they are not > default stuff. > Read M-x append-to-file .... and C-c C-a The normal keycombo to attach a file when in edit mode. > | Save the Message plus attachment (to desired group) with the code I > | mentioned above then kill the edit buffer. > | > | The result of all this is an annotation attached to a copy of original > | message, saved in a special group. While leaving the original message > | untouched in its group. > > As far as I can see, this doesn't provide any way to get to the > annotation from the message... Press "i" over the button. This was only a way to attach memos to a message without altering the message. I never do this. Better to put the edits in the message. I've never needed a pristine original so far, so don't mind typing all I want into the message itself. However, with the method I use the original remains unchanged and in place until an expiry rule gets to it. > want to know what happens to by-force -edited news articles. I think they dissappear when group is re-entered or message is closed then opened after saving edit, if not saved in some way. The utility of it is that it allows you to make your edit *before* saving to disk. It illiminates a step in the save, edit, save cycle. It becomes -- edit, save > Although it still feels a bit hacky, I think this sounds the best > way to go at least if I manage to wrap up some functions to ease > using it. Oh well, one can't get everything. > [...] snipped fierce rant > > *phew*. Did I mention that I need a holiday? :) Use "nn" for six weeks : )