From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/23053 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Unexplained but consistent Date: 25 May 1999 19:18:27 -0700 Organization: mobile Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035160859 32448 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:40:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:40:59 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA03447 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:19:20 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAB21620; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:19:05 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 25 May 1999 21:19:42 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA23365 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:19:31 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.42]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA03422 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:18:35 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from satellite.local.lan ([12.64.40.110]) by mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with ESMTP id <19990526021802.DNLZ17936@satellite.local.lan> for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 02:18:02 +0000 Original-Received: (from reader@localhost) by satellite.local.lan (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA01097; Tue, 25 May 1999 19:18:31 -0700 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Original-Lines: 59 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070083 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.83) Emacs/20.3 Posted-To: gnu.emacs.gnus Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:23053 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:23053 The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to gnu.emacs.gnus as well. [posted to gnu.emacs.gnus and ding list] Experimenting with the known problem of gnus loosing track of postings under agent, when those posts are removed from server, I've found a phenomena that seems to be a partial solution. Or maybe just something else I don't understand about gnus. The phenomena: My nntp group gnu.emacs.gnus shows some 160 messages on the server. My agentized gnu.emacs.gnus shows the same. (both entered with `C-u ) They both show the same message as earliest post (May 15) (to make sure I got how many were current on server I deleted the count for gnu.emacs.gnus in ".newsrc" and "touched" it. Now, close gnus and emacs and call gnus-no-server from the command line. `emacs -f gnus-no-server' No nntp groups are displayed, even with "L" (as expected) Then go `unplugged' (J j) find a group (gnu.emacs.gnus) by using the `jump-to-group' command "j" Enter with C-u I get a summary buffer of posts whos earliest date is May 2 and runs up to few on May 13 none of these are visible in normal `unplugged' mode. Another 204 "invisible posts" have been unearthed. The plot thickens: scanning the file count and looking at dates in News/agent...gnu/emacs/gnus with: `rgrep -r '^Date: ' News/agent...gnu/emacs/gnus': Shows dates going back to Apr 24 (when I first started downloading that group) `rgrep -r '^Date: ' News/agent...gnu/emacs/gnus |wc -l' shows a total of 472. So agent will show 160 (what is on server) 160 The routine I describe above shows another 204 204 A scan of directory shows 472 ---- 364 472 -364 _____ 108 <== still invisible Is this a way to see *some* of the invisible posts or have I run into something else?