From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/17262 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Phil Humpherys Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: many articles Date: 19 Sep 1998 21:05:11 -0600 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035155993 32440 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:19:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:19:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA26683 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 23:06:45 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAF18807; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 21:37:44 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 22:06:33 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01463 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 22:06:23 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from lemmon.iomega.com (tc2-59.utah-inter.net [208.14.200.189]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA26661 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 23:06:14 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from phumpherys@localhost) by lemmon.iomega.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA00927; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 21:05:18 -0600 Original-To: simmonmt@acm.org X-Face: +$9kC-KF`ufD[_*@%Xd4eWFvP&"[B~kGxH+z!TZpgBsi9hHQ$IWy`xDm7}TdnQ%$v^en[M4_GI~)d`d%]wJ?(v5;^^KOj%)|pv W'wLia4&6@9AS-1rU)Yt1I`B]^u*/4Oj`H^!Q9jqa?7eitZ~\_%J+0SnzW=G+74wqYt]Jm7BJl`vEh u[z~-D&a^p16O3'""YHVz5WsqYm1mOFVj+ In-Reply-To: Matt Simmons's message of "19 Sep 1998 13:49:01 -700" Original-Lines: 45 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.43/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:17262 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:17262 Matt Simmons writes: > Of course, 32M (I assume the 32M above is the chip RAM, and the > 128M is swap) is basically a joke for running XEmacs (I assume > the same is true for GNU Emacs) under X, to say nothing of > groups with tens of thousands of messages. I have 224M, and it > still kills me. Of course, it's not swapping, but it still has > a mountain of data to chew through[1]. Matt, thanks for your response. Yes, I recognize that a "mere" 32M of ram isn't very much anymore. It is sufficient for all my other tasks running emacs. It's only on these very large groups that it kinda dies. Now, if I were to run mh (or even mh-e), I'd have absolutely no problems with these large groups (or folders as the case may be). Hence, my complaint. One soolution I can think of is to run gnus with an mh backend, and when I needto do something with these really large groups, I bail on [x]emacs and go straight mh. Then, I can always come back to xemacs later whenever I want. I think I'd like to explore this further, but there's very little documentation I can find on gnus specifics with the mh backend. If anyone one there has some experience here I'd appreciate some feedback. The examples in the gnus manual are very sparse. > According to top, the footprint of my current XEmacs is 43M > (though only 27M is swapped in at the moment). You really should go > buy more RAM if you'd like to keep your sanity. Well, this may be an option down the road, but for now it simply isn't. Instead, I'm going to have to modify how I interact with my email somewhat. I'm dedicated to staying with gnus, but I'm going to have make it work with mh as I've described above. Thanks again for your response. I'd appreciate any further help or suggestions. -- Phil Humpherys DriverSoft Unix Systems Administrator Mobile: +1.801.725.3257 WWW/PGPkeys: http://www.spire.com/~humphery