From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/68904 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steinar Bang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus' speed Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:28:10 +0200 Organization: Probably a good idea Message-ID: References: <87zlao7j1z.fsf@CPU107.opentrends.net> <87iqhbco96.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87iqhbqai0.fsf@blah.blah> <87ab21ridk.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1250324937 1123 80.91.229.12 (15 Aug 2009 08:28:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:28:57 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M17324@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Aug 15 10:28:51 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1McEd2-0006et-KX for ding-account@gmane.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:28:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1McEd0-0006mI-Np; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:28:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1McEcz-0006lz-F3 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:28:41 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1McEcx-0006kR-VJ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:28:41 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1McEdY-0007jd-00 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:29:16 +0200 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1McEcs-0006eB-JD for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:28:34 +0000 Original-Received: from cm-84.208.231.232.getinternet.no ([84.208.231.232]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:28:34 +0000 Original-Received: from sb by cm-84.208.231.232.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:28:34 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 42 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.208.231.232.getinternet.no Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:xCsigGeGyQ/VKcRx+XMf7e882/M= X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:68904 Archived-At: >>>>> Miles Bader : > Kevin Ryde writes: >> I never understood why startup takes quite so long (with those >> newsgroups check bits set to nil, and only a dozen or so local nntp >> and nnml subscribed, but lots unsubscribed). Maybe it's just the >> quantity of code loaded. Did someone profile it a few years ago? > On my work machine, Gnus startup is slow because my home directory and > mail directories are on NFS, and NFS is an insane dog (operations that > don't require much I/O to my homedir are all quite fast). Heh... I had a 1996/1997 vintage DEC HiNote Ultra, with 24MB of RAM and 1GB of HD, running debian, as my personal machine. Around 2001 it had become cumbersome to use for Gnus. The XEmacs process with Gnus quickly used too much memory for the little machine, and I had to switch back to using GNU Emacs for Gnusing. XEmacs+Gnus became too slow. And even GNU Emacs+Gnus became slow (when the machine started paging),... and web pages started using too much huge JPEGs and GIFs and flash animations... so the machine that had been sufficient until then, became too slow for web browsing, and ended up in a drawer, where it still is. But right now I'm running Gnus in GNU Emacs (which has all of the multimedia capabilities, and more, as the old XEmacs), on an Acer Aspire One 110. Physically as small as my old HiNote Ultra, but performance wise a lot faster, with its 1GB of RAM and 8GB of SSD. The processor is a lot faster also of course, but the 1GB of RAM is probably the most important thing. But heh... the screen size and resolution, is about the same as the old HiNote Ultra (it was a small and *sweet* machine). The keyboard is better, and the AA1's touchpad is better than the HiNote's rollerball. But I digress... Gnus performance, right... acceptable. There used to be a problem with sparse IMAP groups, or was it just the size of the group? Anyway, my main inbox is pretty large, and performance hasn't become enough of an issue yet, that I've expired its content to the archive group.