From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/46388 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: gnus@butchwax.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: nnimap summary: view ALL headers Date: 04 Sep 2002 18:36:27 +0800 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1031136407 12385 127.0.0.1 (4 Sep 2002 10:46:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 10:46:47 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17mXgK-0003DV-00 for ; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 12:46:44 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17mXfR-0006hG-00; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 05:45:49 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 04 Sep 2002 05:46:25 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA27881 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 05:46:15 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 19079 invoked by alias); 4 Sep 2002 10:45:35 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 19074 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2002 10:45:34 -0000 Original-Received: from cm61-15-255-177.hkcable.com.hk (HELO capsulecorp.ghosts.butchwax.com) (61.15.255.177) by gnus.org with SMTP; 4 Sep 2002 10:45:34 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 23608 invoked by uid 500); 4 Sep 2002 10:36:27 -0000 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46388 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46388 Howdy! I'm just switching to gnus for my email environment. I've been stuck with Windogs for the last 6 months, and was using Outlook Express with an imaps (courier) server. Now I'm back to Linux and Emacs, yay! I've identified gnus as being the best emacs mail program to do imap. It seems to be most naturally suited to reading messages on a remote server, right? And it does SSL, GPG, LDAP (maybe...), and other nifty things that I want. Very cool! However, getting started with gnus as a mail reader (and no experience with it as a news reader, either) is turning out to be frustrating. If I can solve this one problem I'll be more or less set: Gnus treats messages marked 'read' as deleted. That makes sense to me for news, but not for email, especially since I've come from using OE which has marked most of my email as 'read.' I can't seem to figure out how to display ALL message headers, including the ones marked 'read.' It doesn't seem to be related to gnus's 'limiting' facilities. Can someone point me in the right direction? Next, if articles marked as 'read' are treated as deleted by gnus, how do I reconcile that with using another imap client to read email? Does this mean that each time I read a message through, eg., the web mail interface, I will have to go back and uncheck the 'read' box? Thanks for any help. I'd appreciate a CC: on any replies, there's no way I'm subscribing to this group until I have gnus working fully! ;) John