Couldn't open server?

Couldn't open server?

[Dmitry Yaitskov]

During the last couple of days, it occurred several times that when I
tried to enter a "regular" news group in gnus, it *immediately*
(i.e. apparently without trying anything) said "couldn't open
server". Quitting and restarting gnus seems to fix the situation. I
*think* that in all those situations, my news server had been really
unavailable for some time before - could it be that gnus "remembered"
that it could not open the server last time, and didn't even try
again?

-- 
Cheers,
-Dima.

Re: Couldn't open server?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Dmitry Yaitskov <dimas@home.com> writes:

> could it be that gnus "remembered" that it could not open the server
> last time, and didn't even try again?

Yes.  Go to the server buffer and look at the status of the servers
there.  The "denied" servers can be un-er-uhm-undenied by pressing
`R'. 

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(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Couldn't open server?

[Dmitry Yaitskov]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Dmitry Yaitskov <dimas@home.com> writes:
> 
> > could it be that gnus "remembered" that it could not open the server
> > last time, and didn't even try again?
> 
> Yes.  Go to the server buffer and look at the status of the servers
> there.  The "denied" servers can be un-er-uhm-undenied by pressing
> `R'. 

I see. What is the "server" buffer? Or rather, how can I go there?
Also, is it possible to modify this behavior on a per-server basis?
Thanks.

-- 
Cheers,
-Dima.

Re: Couldn't open server?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Dmitry Yaitskov <dimas@home.com> writes:

> I see. What is the "server" buffer? Or rather, how can I go there?

`^' in the group buffer.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Couldn't open server?

[Dmitry Yaitskov]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Dmitry Yaitskov <dimas@home.com> writes:
> 
> > I see. What is the "server" buffer? Or rather, how can I go there?
> 
> `^' in the group buffer.

Thanks.

-- 
Cheers,
-Dima.

Re: Couldn't open server?

[Dmitry Yaitskov]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Dmitry Yaitskov <dimas@home.com> writes:
> 
> > could it be that gnus "remembered" that it could not open the server
> > last time, and didn't even try again?
> 
> Yes.  Go to the server buffer and look at the status of the servers
> there.  The "denied" servers can be un-er-uhm-undenied by pressing
> `R'. 

A thought: it would be nice if Gnus did one of 2 things: either (1)
didn't try to open servers which were denied last time upon pressing
g in the group buffer, but tried nonetheless if asked specifically to
open a particular group, or (2) kept track of last time the server was
really denied, and if that time exceeded a certain amount (e.g. 2
hours or something), reset the "denied" flag. Otherwise, with Gnus
constantly running, I for example now and again have to go to the
server buffer and un-deny my news server (which is not too reliable,
unfortunately)...

-- 
Cheers,
-Dima.

Re: Couldn't open server?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Dmitry Yaitskov <dimas@home.com> writes:

> A thought: it would be nice if Gnus did one of 2 things: either (1)
> didn't try to open servers which were denied last time upon pressing
> g in the group buffer, but tried nonetheless if asked specifically to
> open a particular group,

Gnus does this.  `M-g' on a group will try to activate the group even
if the server was previously denied.

> or (2) kept track of last time the server was
> really denied, and if that time exceeded a certain amount (e.g. 2
> hours or something), reset the "denied" flag. Otherwise, with Gnus
> constantly running, I for example now and again have to go to the
> server buffer and un-deny my news server (which is not too reliable,
> unfortunately)...

I don't really like "automatic fixes", because the user is usually
more knowledgeable about these things than a program can ever be.
Trying to re-contact a server can be a time-consuming task if the
network connection is wonky.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen