From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/19869 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Hedbor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus and Crypto stuff Date: 14 Dec 1998 17:59:14 -0800 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035158140 13801 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:55:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:55:40 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from karazm.math.uh.edu (karazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.1]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04743 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:59:57 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAB24166; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:59:50 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:59:50 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA10815 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:59:41 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from pokey.animearchive.org (root@the.animearchive.org [204.228.135.138]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04723 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:59:32 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mouser (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pokey.animearchive.org (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id RAA10836 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:58:51 -0800 (PST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Stainless Steel Rat's message of "13 Dec 1998 18:11:18 -0500" X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.44/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Original-Lines: 31 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:19869 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:19869 Stainless Steel Rat writes: > Hash: SHA1 > > "Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic writes: > > Hrvoje> On a different note: is the agreement retroactive? I mean, are my > Hrvoje> old programs suddenly unexportable? > > Wassenaar is more or less 33 nations saying, "we think these are good > ideas". Compliance with Wassenaar is not mandatory for any of the > signatory nations. It is not law unless your government institutes > Wassenaar or some variant into law. AFAIK, no nation has yet done so. This is unfortunately incorrect. For example Sweden has had strict Crypto export laws since 1995 (from the first Wassenaar I believe). Also ISP has imposed stronger restriction on export of Roxen than the law required due to a possible future stricter, US-friendly law. I don't know the exact details, but Sweden is just as bad as the US, if not worse. Also Microsoft has been a strong force behind the new Wassenaar, since they want equal possibilities to sell crypto software outside of the US (of course non-US companies has a much harder time in the US because of it). Anyway, http://www.roxen.com/crypto/ is a good place for more information about the Swedish crypto situation. -- [ Below is a random fortune, which is unrelated to the above message. ] During the voyage of life, remember to keep an eye out for a fair wind; batten down during a storm; hail all passing ships; and fly your colors proudly.