From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/81542 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: I can haz cloud idea Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 02:12:29 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87fwebnzd8.fsf@gnus.org> <1swr7nl0tf.fsf@voll.uninett.no> <87mx8elugg.fsf@gnus.org> <87aa4banji.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1331341966 27190 80.91.229.3 (10 Mar 2012 01:12:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 01:12:46 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M29822@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Mar 10 02:12:45 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S6ArT-0003kk-81 for ding-account@gmane.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 02:12:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1S6ArK-000053-Jn; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 19:12:34 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1S6ArJ-0008WS-CU for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 19:12:33 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S6ArH-0003lw-GP for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 19:12:32 -0600 Original-Received: from smtp.getmail.no ([84.208.15.66]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S6ArF-0003O8-JM for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 02:12:29 +0100 Original-Received: from get-mta-scan02.get.basefarm.net ([10.5.16.4]) by get-mta-out01.get.basefarm.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-0.04 64bit (built Jun 20 2008)) with ESMTP id <0M0N00M2LA0T3390@get-mta-out01.get.basefarm.net> for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 02:12:29 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from get-mta-scan02.get.basefarm.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Email Security Appliance) with SMTP id 6B0491EA53A9_F5AAA7DB for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 01:12:29 +0000 (GMT) Original-Received: from smtp.getmail.no (unknown [10.5.16.4]) by get-mta-scan02.get.basefarm.net (Sophos Email Appliance) with ESMTP id 4C2B31EA296D_F5AAA7DF for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 01:12:29 +0000 (GMT) Original-Received: from stories.gnus.org ([84.215.51.58]) by get-mta-in02.get.basefarm.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-0.04 64bit (built Jun 20 2008)) with ESMTP id <0M0N00HXJA0TP700@get-mta-in02.get.basefarm.net> for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 02:12:29 +0100 (MET) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEUBCA0REA8WFRMBBAg7 OzMPDg4FCw7z77wVExMBCg8VFBITEhCUX1tIAAACK0lEQVQ4jW3TPY/TQBAG4EVUKRfF1XWrNOw1 iK8fYFk63VEdIRSUFxQplKdIrunMpXGBIgzdiuI0WzkKusjz55h31ufk4Kay9/HM7JfNeWM0nljE LLu020khYc6bWoab5lfL3HJrbTaTWLwSEGma5gsjWmRdiihoXBGR73jr2bJ9AA7hfQySBnjew3t3 iD+z7HFw2VGGzLEfZc6OS52VGkUe2WqPbw+hvAZkB9gM4FubAZZHGasEssoDbLSBArNC8y+cMp8A 6tEAqwTxv4yiONNZpR5pbwGrXTEpyzx43jtAKiZwPS7GZXnBp2kd9Ysa57QQ2BXPerAfAXKAo+aH lBqvJOMdZqswQpPNlTTf5XeAE+kt8NTUkrD5jOlKbyklKRlgNIDGhW6igARqDeAHkMnWx4De2RQZ so5N830AvUGAEVa+PEDE+gBprwZwrk0ZdQ9Ff4QeTdBjsVT6KdcjOLkqPmrGW7PWBc0+hSgPndxF XODZ9I1xXdShBEQhwUuDl4546xI7R6ggEDt8GIPCHveaKrYCRDIS/W/8RTlu6A1Vazt9bYJDKdLf S43otn0MfIyADyaQl38pFPcgL9VXO52YIOOxI+cmfQaFqs0AUoqZ0DZHdwoU7yFS5zF95hvnA3Xc ZvOJkW8QunAsVraM2tncGfypkASRpCf3gBw1qaNv+wGwD1HKJfC0tgM4hz2WTBkPVdVODyDXpiNk eHerkOvZyAmhVv9R1c7dX+XS0gudtVnzAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Talk Talk's _Asides Besides (2)_: "Without You" In-reply-to: <87aa4banji.fsf@lifelogs.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130004 (Ma Gnus v0.4) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:81542 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > LI> It'll be like using the IMAP synchronisation methodology, only for all > LI> backends and stuff. > > OK. But that's nearly impossible to share with other MUAs, unlike my > LeSync proposal, and I hope you don't use deltas as I said above. I don't think sharing this data with other MUAs should be a primary design goal here... > You're basing your side on a working, always-reachable IMAP server, > which is less reasonable in the context of the Internet and requires > significant infrastructure. If you can't reach the IMAP server, you can't read your email, which makes the whole thing somewhat moot. > Port 80 is much more likely to be open than other ports, especially in > a corporate environment. The use case here (which I think is the typical use case, these days) is "I read email all the time, and then I read a couple of groups from eternal-news, and 74 groups from news.gmane.org, and I want those extra groups to sync just like my mail". Like magic, without having to know or set up anything else. > I didn't decide on CouchDB because it's trendy (it's SO 2009!), But it has web scale! Or was that MongoDB? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/