From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/38506 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Strange server names confusion Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 00:54:50 -0400 Organization: What did you have in mind? A short, blunt, human pyramid? Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035174358 22793 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:25:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:25:58 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 24463 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2001 04:54:51 -0000 Original-Received: from multivac.student.cwru.edu (HELO multivac.cwru.edu) (261@129.22.96.25) by gnus.org with SMTP; 2 Sep 2001 04:54:51 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 5730 invoked by uid 500); 2 Sep 2001 04:55:12 -0000 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Copies-To: never In-Reply-To: (Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE's message of "Sat, 01 Sep 2001 23:59:07 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/20.7 Original-Lines: 41 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:38506 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:38506 Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Gro=DFjohann) wrote: > Simon Josefsson writes: >> Foreign groups are identified by the name of the server (car of each >> entry in `gnus-server-alist'). >=20 > And secondary groups are identified in some other way? Here's the story AIUI. Every select method has a first element (the backend) and a second element (which you and I might have thought of as the "name" but which Gnus calls the "address"). Some select methods (the primary and foreign ones) also have "server names". The primary select method's name is "native", and a foreign method's name is its key in gnus-server-alist. Secondary select methods do not have "server names". gnus-server-to-method maps strings to select methods. It accepts two kinds of strings: server names, for methods that have them, and "backend:address", for all methods. gnus-method-to-server-name, despite the name, does not map methods to server names. It maps methods to server identifications as they would appear in fully qualified group names - either "backend", if the address is "", or "backend+address". > Does this mean I can have two secondary servers with the same name (as > long as the backend is different), but not two foreign servers with > the same name? You can have two servers of any kind with the same "address" if they have different backends. You cannot have two servers of any kind with the same "name". I think. > Well, I tried to enter "nntp:quimby" (with quotes) after `G e' on the > group, then I tried to enter the group -- no dice. But with "quimby" > (with quotes), it worked. I think "nntp:quimby.gnus.org" would work, assuming "quimby.gnus.org" is the second element of your select method. paul