Mail Fetching (was: Re: IMAP Questions)

[Johan Parin <Johan.Parin@abc.se>]

Simon Josefsson writes:

  Simon> Johan Parin <Johan.Parin@abc.se> writes:
  >> >> (gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-demon-scan-mail 2 nil)
  Simon> ...
  >> You're right. Tried it at home, where I'm using pop, and it's the same 
  >> problem. I hope I'm not misunderstanding something - I mean
  >> gnus-demon-scan-mail _is_ supposed to fetch new mail, right?

  Simon> Perhaps `gnus-demon-scan-news' is what you want?  By the look
  Simon> of the code, `g-d-s-mail' only scan (ie perform splitting),
  Simon> and `g-d-s-news' does the same but also update the group
  Simon> buffer.

g-d-s-news does the job alright but it's not what I want - I just want 
to fetch new mail, not news. I don't understand what it means to only
perform splitting - what mail is split if no new mail is fetched?

  >> Anyway, I did some more debugging and what happens is that when
  >> nnmail-get-new-mail is called from the demon,
  >> nnmail-fetched-sources is nil. This means that the 'when
  >> fetching-sources' form where the mail is actually fetched will
  >> not be run.

  Simon> This might work.

  <patch snipped>

Well, yes this fetches new mail, but the group buffer and overview
files are not updated, so I can't see it. To actually see the mail I
still have to press `g'. This is the same problem as with M-g when
using topics. Mail is fetched but not seen.

Of course I can use group levels instead of M-g to fetch just
mail. But I still think this is a bug - or am I missing something? To
get backrround mail fetching work I could write a special version of
g-d-s-news which only fetches mail, I guess. Still don't know what
g-d-s-mail is for as it is though.

After these problems are solved though, remains getting the summary
buffers to be updated *incrementally*. I.e. I want the new message to
appear sorted in place (usually last) when it arrives if the summary
buffer for that group is present. This is something other MUAs do -
pretty standard. Is this possible (I think not), or is this not the
Gnus way - should I use VM if I want this? :-(


Johan
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