Opening gnus unplugged

Opening gnus unplugged

[Harry Putnam]

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According to the info pages on 'unplugged', all that is needed is to
insert (gnus-agentize) in .gnus, and start Gnus with M-x gnus-unplugged.

This is not working for me so tried the techniques posted here.


M-x load-library <RET> gnus-agent <RET>
Then M-x gnus-unplugged <RET>

Message from minibuffer:
>nntp (enews.newsguy.com) open error: No such file or directory
>continue (y or n)

Of course if I say no then the session is over.
If I say yes then:
>Gnus auto-save file exists. Do you want to read it? (y or n)
Either 'y or n' will produce this:
Wrong type argument: stringp, nnagent-active-file

Back trace:

Signaling: (wrong-type-argument stringp nnagent-active-file)
  insert-file-contents(nnagent-active-file)
  byte-code("\bÁ\x1a^[Ä\r!ˆ*Ƈ" [nnmail-file-coding-system binary pathname-coding-system coding-system-for-read insert-file-contents file t] 2)
  nnmail-find-file(nnagent-active-file)
  nnml-request-list()
  nnmail-activate(nnml)
  nnml-request-create-group("drafts" "" nil)
  apply(nnml-request-create-group ("drafts" "" nil))
  nnoo-parent-function(nnagent nnml-request-create-group ("drafts" "" nil))
  nnagent-request-create-group("drafts" "" nil)
  gnus-request-create-group("drafts" (nndraft ""))
  gnus-start-draft-setup()
  byte-code("\b„\x0e
  gnus-1(nil nil nil)
  gnus()
  gnus-unplugged()
  call-interactively(gnus-unplugged)
  execute-extended-command(nil)
* call-interactively(execute-extended-command)


-- 

Harry Putnam  reader@newsguy.com

Re: Opening gnus unplugged

[Harry Putnam]

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> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> 
> > According to the info pages on 'unplugged', all that is needed is to
> > insert (gnus-agentize) in .gnus, and start Gnus with M-x gnus-unplugged.
> 
> Yes, that will be true once Gnus is included in X/Emacs.
> 
> For now, you have to autoload the function:
> 
> (autoload 'gnus-unplugged "gnus-agent" nil t)

Above function installed in .emacs 
Start emacs 
Start gnus M-x gnus-unplugged

Back trace included:
I doubt this is a bug of any kind- more likely some dopey thing I have
configured wrong.

Signaling: (wrong-type-argument stringp nnagent-active-file)
  insert-file-contents(nnagent-active-file)
  byte-code("\bÁ\x1a^[Ä\r!ˆ*Ƈ" [nnmail-file-coding-system binary pathname-coding-system coding-system-for-read insert-file-contents file t] 2)
  nnmail-find-file(nnagent-active-file)
  nnml-request-list()
  nnmail-activate(nnml)
  nnml-request-create-group("drafts" "" nil)
  apply(nnml-request-create-group ("drafts" "" nil))
  nnoo-parent-function(nnagent nnml-request-create-group ("drafts" "" nil))
  nnagent-request-create-group("drafts" "" nil)
  gnus-request-create-group("drafts" (nndraft ""))
  gnus-start-draft-setup()
  byte-code("\b„\x0e
  gnus-1(nil nil nil)
  gnus()
  gnus-unplugged()
  call-interactively(gnus-unplugged)
  execute-extended-command(nil)
* call-interactively(execute-extended-command)

-- 

Harry Putnam  reader@newsguy.com

Re: Opening gnus unplugged

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:

> According to the info pages on 'unplugged', all that is needed is to
> insert (gnus-agentize) in .gnus, and start Gnus with M-x gnus-unplugged.

Yes, that will be true once Gnus is included in X/Emacs.

For now, you have to autoload the function:

(autoload 'gnus-unplugged "gnus-agent" nil t)

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Opening gnus unplugged

[Harry Putnam]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> 
> > Signaling: (wrong-type-argument stringp nnagent-active-file)
> 
> [...]
> 
> >   nnagent-request-create-group("drafts" "" nil)
> 
> Are you sure you are loading the right version of Gnus?


Well, the mode line shows Quassia Gnus v0.29, when I do M-x gnus <RET>,
and from Gnus, C-c C-i shows Quassia-0.29 Info.

I did do something that may be responsible:

In my '/usr/share/emacs/20.2/lisp/gnus' directory where the
Emacs-20.2.rpm (non-mule) installed the5.5 gnus files, I made a new
directory (gnus5.5) and moved all the original gnus *.el and #.elc
there, so they wouldn't be access but would still be available.

Then moved all the quassia-0.29 *.el and *.elc files into
'/usr/share/emacs/20.2/lisp/gnus' so they would be accessed instead of
original 5.5 files.

This seemed like it should work alright, and I can run quassia-0.29 that
way, but I suppose I might have dorked up an important file in the moving
or something.


	

Re: Opening gnus unplugged

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:

> Signaling: (wrong-type-argument stringp nnagent-active-file)

[...]

>   nnagent-request-create-group("drafts" "" nil)

Are you sure you are loading the right version of Gnus?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Opening gnus unplugged

[Harry Putnam]

Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:

> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> 
> > Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> > 
> > > Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> > > 
> > > > Signaling: (wrong-type-argument stringp nnagent-active-file)
> > > 
> > > [...]
> > > 
> > > >   nnagent-request-create-group("drafts" "" nil)
> > > 
> > > Are you sure you are loading the right version of Gnus?
> > 
> > 
> > Well, the mode line shows Quassia Gnus v0.29, when I do M-x gnus <RET>,
> > and from Gnus, C-c C-i shows Quassia-0.29 Info.
> > 
> > I did do something that may be responsible:
> 
> I should have thought of this before. Look in your .gnus file for "#".




Nope,  no '#' in .gnus.

Re: Opening gnus unplugged

[Harry Putnam]

Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:

> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> 
> > Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
> > 
> > > Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> > > 
> > > > Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> > > > 
> > > > > Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Signaling: (wrong-type-argument stringp nnagent-active-file)
> > > > > 
> > > > > [...]
> > > > > 
> > > > > >   nnagent-request-create-group("drafts" "" nil)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Are you sure you are loading the right version of Gnus?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Well, the mode line shows Quassia Gnus v0.29, when I do M-x gnus <RET>,
> > > > and from Gnus, C-c C-i shows Quassia-0.29 Info.
> > > > 
> > > > I did do something that may be responsible:
> > > 
> > > I should have thought of this before. Look in your .gnus file for "#".
> > 
> > Nope,  no '#' in .gnus.
> 
> Silly me. Try .newsrc-<nntp_server>.eld instead.


I don't have a file with that format.  Just a newsrc.eld file, searching
it with  isearch shows no hits for '#' (no quotes).

Re: Opening gnus unplugged

[Eze Ogwuma]

Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:

> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> 
> > Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> > 
> > > Signaling: (wrong-type-argument stringp nnagent-active-file)
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > >   nnagent-request-create-group("drafts" "" nil)
> > 
> > Are you sure you are loading the right version of Gnus?
> 
> 
> Well, the mode line shows Quassia Gnus v0.29, when I do M-x gnus <RET>,
> and from Gnus, C-c C-i shows Quassia-0.29 Info.
> 
> I did do something that may be responsible:

I should have thought of this before. Look in your .gnus file for "#".

-- 
Eze Ogwuma

Re: Opening gnus unplugged

[Eze Ogwuma]

Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:

> Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
> 
> > Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> > 
> > > Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> > > 
> > > > Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> > > > 
> > > > > Signaling: (wrong-type-argument stringp nnagent-active-file)
> > > > 
> > > > [...]
> > > > 
> > > > >   nnagent-request-create-group("drafts" "" nil)
> > > > 
> > > > Are you sure you are loading the right version of Gnus?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Well, the mode line shows Quassia Gnus v0.29, when I do M-x gnus <RET>,
> > > and from Gnus, C-c C-i shows Quassia-0.29 Info.
> > > 
> > > I did do something that may be responsible:
> > 
> > I should have thought of this before. Look in your .gnus file for "#".
> 
> Nope,  no '#' in .gnus.

Silly me. Try .newsrc-<nntp_server>.eld instead.

-- 
Eze Ogwuma

Re: Opening gnus unplugged

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:

> Then moved all the quassia-0.29 *.el and *.elc files into
> '/usr/share/emacs/20.2/lisp/gnus' so they would be accessed instead of
> original 5.5 files.

Don't do that.  Just follow the instructions in the README file that
comes with Quassia.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen