From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/56967 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jesper Harder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus 5.10 and Emacs' CVS Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 23:58:04 +0200 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <871xmxti9w.fsf@telia.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1081548160 11323 80.91.224.253 (9 Apr 2004 22:02:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 22:02:40 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M5507@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Apr 10 00:02:30 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BC450-0003UR-00 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 00:02:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BC43U-0003Yo-00; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 17:00:56 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BC43M-0003Yg-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 17:00:48 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BC43K-0006WH-Uc for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 17:00:46 -0500 Original-Received: from pfepc.post.tele.dk (pfepc.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.237]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C0B3A0043 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 17:00:46 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from [195.249.83.96] (0xc3f95360.esnxr2.ras.tele.dk [195.249.83.96]) by pfepc.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8AF6262858 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 00:00:43 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Peter Lee's message of "Fri, 09 Apr 2004 13:58:14 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:56967 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:56967 Peter Lee writes: > One obvious solution is to pull it out of Emacs all together. > Maintain it as a seperate package only. > > Emacs is bloated as it is. Those who don't use Gnus currently get > it whether they want it or not. It's not that simple. Other parts of Emacs depend on some Gnus libraries. > I know it wouldn't bother me, as I use CVS anyway. Anyone smart > enough to use Gnus shouldn't have any problems downloading a tarball > and installing it. I strongly disagree. Being bundled with Emacs itself is important -- it increases availability and visibility greatly. Most people do not want to hunt down and install third-party packages. -- Jesper Harder