[Q] nosey smileys ?

[Q] nosey smileys ?

[Didier Verna]

        Hi there.

I've just upgraded (I hadn't done so for a long time, I also can't follow
closely the list these days, and I apologize for this), and the nosey smileys
are gone. I've got awful square B/W smileys now.

Why has this happened ?

Note: I can still get the old smileys in the Gnus XEmacs package archive, but
I want to know why they have disapeared from the main stream.

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Re: [Q] nosey smileys ?

[Steve Youngs]

|--==> "drv" == Didier Verna <didier@lrde.epita.fr> writes:

  drv> I've just upgraded (I hadn't done so for a long time, I also
  drv> can't follow closely the list these days, and I apologize for
  drv> this), and the nosey smileys are gone. I've got awful square
  drv> B/W smileys now.

Yeah, I know.  They're terrible aren't they?

  drv> Why has this happened ?

Because Lars decided to get rid of the old working 'smiley.el' and
replace it with the "less-than-optimal" 'smiley-ems.el'.  I've asked
Lars a couple of times to put things back the way they were, but so
far my pleas have fallen on deaf ears. 

Lars, please please put the old 'smiley.el' back, the one that's there
now is absolutely horrible for XEmacs users.

  drv> Note: I can still get the old smileys in the Gnus XEmacs package
  drv> archive, but I want to know why they have disapeared from the
  drv> main stream.

Just take the 'smiley.el' from the XEmacs packages and drop it into
your Oort directory.

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Re: [Q] nosey smileys ?

[Han Pilmeyer]

>>>>> "SY" == Steve Youngs <youngs@xemacs.org> writes:

SY> Lars, please please put the old 'smiley.el' back, the one that's there
SY> now is absolutely horrible for XEmacs users.

Yes, Lars. Please, please, please...

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Re: [Q] nosey smileys ?

[Simon Josefsson]

Steve Youngs <youngs@xemacs.org> writes:

>   drv> Why has this happened ?
>
> Because Lars decided to get rid of the old working 'smiley.el' and
> replace it with the "less-than-optimal" 'smiley-ems.el'.  I've asked
> Lars a couple of times to put things back the way they were, but so
> far my pleas have fallen on deaf ears. 
>
> Lars, please please put the old 'smiley.el' back, the one that's there
> now is absolutely horrible for XEmacs users.

Wasn't there some copyright holder issue with some of the smiley icons
at some point in time?  Does FSF own the XEmacs smileys?

Re: [Q] nosey smileys ?

[Pavel Janík]

   From: Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com>
   Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 20:20:31 +0200

Hi,

   > > Lars, please please put the old 'smiley.el' back, the one that's there
   > > now is absolutely horrible for XEmacs users.
   > 
   > Wasn't there some copyright holder issue with some of the smiley icons
   > at some point in time?  Does FSF own the XEmacs smileys?

no, we have a problem to find original author of those icons.

Yes, use them too even with Emacs, because the default icons are really
crazy.
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