From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/24252 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stainless Steel Rat Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: [PATCH] Mail fetching on memory-poor machines Date: 14 Jul 1999 21:21:00 -0400 Organization: The Happy Fun Ball Brigade Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87hfn7stjr.fsf@pepper.jimpick.com> <87673mapfs.fsf@pepper.jimpick.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035161850 7724 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:57:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:57:30 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA15220 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 21:22:25 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAB08064; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:22:03 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:22:47 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA24256 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:22:38 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from peorth.gweep.net (ratinox@adhara.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.116.158]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA15192 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 21:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from ratinox@localhost) by peorth.gweep.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA01455; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 21:21:01 -0400 Original-To: "(ding)" X-Attribution: Rat In-Reply-To: Jim Pick's message of "14 Jul 1999 14:31:35 -0700" Original-Lines: 37 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070095 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.95) XEmacs/21.1 (Arches) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:24252 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:24252 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 * Jim Pick on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 | Why not fix the problem? The results of the problem are so bad that | it's basically a bug. Fixing it seems like a more logical thing to | do, rather than force everybody to use the program in a certain way. Because, if I understand what your code does (which might not be the case), it only works for people who use Gnus "your" way while slowing it down unnecessarilly for those who are not on memory-starved systems, have large nnfolders, and do use Gnus to split mail sources. Personally, I am all for lean and mean, which is one of the reasons why I don't use nnfolder. I tried it, briefly, back when I was on a 12MB system. That was a mistake :). For what its worth, inode starvation is not as likely as you might think. The average mail message is ~3-4kB; the average inode size on a modern filesystem is 4kB. One message, one inode. On an ~1GB filesystem you will have around 256k inodes (more, actually). In practical terms, you will run out of space before you run out of inodes, unless your filesystem is tuned with unusually large inodes or you are suffering under a woefully restrictive inode quota. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v0.9.8 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE3jTd8gl+vIlSVSNkRAq8ZAJ9qy2roxy7JgfnhUDNZrU3sFnnlbwCgz/KX tFqSmLkn2MR74Xjc8PIa/uw= =Bsku -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rat \ Warning: pregnant women, the elderly, and Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ children under 10 should avoid prolonged PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ exposure to Happy Fun Ball.