From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/53948 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hrvoje Niksic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Entering passphrase twice when sending PGP signed message Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 01:20:16 +0200 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1063495245 23419 80.91.224.253 (13 Sep 2003 23:20:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 23:20:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: hniksic@xemacs.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M2488@lists.math.uh.edu Sun Sep 14 01:20:43 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19yJh5-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 14 Sep 2003 01:20:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19yJgU-0000rR-00; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 18:20:06 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19yJgI-0000rD-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 18:19:54 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 75299 invoked by alias); 13 Sep 2003 23:19:54 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 75294 invoked from network); 13 Sep 2003 23:19:53 -0000 Original-Received: from mxout.iskon.hr (qmailr@213.191.128.10) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 13 Sep 2003 23:19:53 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 17512 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2003 01:19:51 +0200 Original-Received: from mx.iskon.hr (qmailr@213.191.128.11) by mxout.iskon.hr with SMTP; 14 Sep 2003 01:19:51 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 21968 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2003 01:19:50 +0200 Original-Received: from hniksic.iskon.hr (213.191.139.17) by mx.iskon.hr with SMTP; 14 Sep 2003 01:19:50 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Simon Josefsson's message of "Sat, 13 Sep 2003 23:24:05 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53948 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53948 Simon Josefsson writes: [...] > So unless someone has a clever idea how this could be solved, I think > we should consider it a feature. Your examples are good, but I disagree with the conclusion. Just because suboptimal behavior is hard to fix doesn't make it a feature. I'd classify it as a hard-to-fix bug, no more, no less. Typing a passphrase once per message is annoying. Having to type it twice is really really bad. How about remembering the passphrase and reusing it the second time? The passphrase would be forgotten the moment the mail sending process is finished. At first that sounds like a violation of passphrase privacy, but think about it: as long as the string is not copied around, it's no more dangerous to use it twice and delete it than to prompt for it twice, deleting it each time around.