From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/53747 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Benjamin Riefenstahl Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus: UTF-8 and compatibility with other MUAs Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 14:30:21 +0200 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1061129980 18232 80.91.224.253 (17 Aug 2003 14:19:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 14:19:40 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M2289@lists.math.uh.edu Sun Aug 17 16:19:39 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19oONf-0002Ez-00 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 16:19:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19oOLb-0007wq-00; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 09:17:31 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19oOLT-0007wi-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 09:17:23 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 6177 invoked by alias); 17 Aug 2003 12:30:41 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 6172 invoked from network); 17 Aug 2003 12:30:41 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO mail.epost.de) (193.28.100.166) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 2003 12:30:41 -0000 Original-Received: from seneca.benny.turtle-trading.net.epost.de (193.99.153.30) by mail.epost.de (6.7.015) id 3F3276DC000B4D54 for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 14:30:35 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Simon Josefsson's message of "Sun, 17 Aug 2003 00:24:13 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1001 (Gnus v5.10.1) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53747 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53747 Hi Simon, Just two additional thoughts, I agree with most of what you said otherwise. Simon Josefsson writes: > But it doesn't solve the problem. 'cmp' still says the files are > different. UTF-8 had a similar problem (overlong encodings) but > that has been fixed, UTF-16 and UTF-32 can't be. Actually UTF-8 still has that problem with composed vs. decomposed characters. There is no perfect system AFAIK. > If normal computers was 16 bit, I could understand the trade-off, Depends of what you call "normal computers." MS Windows and Apple's Mac OS X both use UTF-16 for APIs and internal implmentation. benny