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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: wmperry@aventail.com (William M. Perry)
Subject: Re: A road map for Oort Gnus
Date: 14 Apr 2001 15:12:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3r8yvr5f4.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <rjitk77j70.fsf@ssv2.dina.kvl.dk>

Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes:

> It would need some more work to be really useful, but the real problem
> is that w3 is not integrated in Emacs.  WM Perry hasn't time to do
> more than minimal maintainence, and nobody else have volunteered to
> take over w3 or w3 integration.

I think that w3 is an essential Emacs component.  These days, most
information is out there on the Web, and to access that, we need the
URL library and the HTML parsing functions.  In short, w3.  It's going
to become even more vital in the future, what with all these
XML-RPC/SOAP thingies that are rearing their heads.

Are anybody at the FSF dealing with these issues?  It's not impossible
that funding could be found for such a project, if that's the issue.
(I suspect that it's more a question of time.)

> I think using w3 would be the ultimate solution, but we could invent
> an ad-hoc markup language for the purpose.

I think that would be counter-productive.  w3 is the way.  Who do we
bug to get things set in motion?  (I've Cc'd this to Bill.)

> Depending on how much control is needed, it could be build upon either
> custom or the widget library.  I don't think the programming part will
> be that hard, the real challenge would be designing the wizards
> themselves. 

If we had a proper framework for building wizards, I think writing the
wizards themselves would be quite a lot of typing; yes, but not very
complicated typing.

I envision a kind of rule-based framework.  "The user has input this
and this information, and this and this exists on the system, so we
present the user with this information and these choices."

I don't think writing that kind of framework would be trivial...

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen


  reply	other threads:[~2001-04-14 13:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-04-14 10:31 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2001-04-14 10:53 ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-04-14 12:35   ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-04-14 13:12     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2001-04-14 14:42       ` Wizards and W3 integration (was: Re: A road map for Oort Gnus) Per Abrahamsen
2001-04-14 15:22         ` Wizards and W3 integration Raymond Scholz
2001-04-14 15:45         ` Re[1]: Wizards and W3 integration (was: A road map for Oort Gnus) Eric M. Ludlam
2001-04-14 16:38         ` Wizards and W3 integration (was: " Eli Zaretskii
2001-04-16 16:49           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2001-04-16 19:05             ` Eli Zaretskii
2001-04-17 10:57               ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-04-17 13:25                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2001-04-17 13:43                   ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-04-17 15:13                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2001-04-17 15:34                       ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-04-17 15:44                         ` Kai Großjohann
2001-04-17 15:45                         ` Laura Conrad
2001-04-17 13:57                   ` William M. Perry
2001-04-17 15:04                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2001-04-16 20:28             ` Kai Großjohann
2001-04-16 20:57             ` Wizards and W3 integration Robin S. Socha
2001-04-17  7:05               ` Eli Zaretskii
2001-04-17  6:12                 ` Norbert Koch
2001-04-17 14:02                 ` Robin S. Socha
2001-04-17 14:14                   ` Michael Livshin
2001-04-17 14:29                     ` Robin S. Socha
2001-04-17 14:35                       ` [noise] " Michael Livshin
2001-04-14 10:57 ` A road map for Oort Gnus Robin S. Socha
2001-04-14 13:15   ` Harry Putnam
2001-04-14 13:19   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2001-04-16  0:06     ` Albert Krusbersky
2001-04-14 16:04   ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-04-15 13:20     ` Robin S. Socha
2001-04-15 22:58       ` Kai Großjohann
2001-04-15 23:30         ` Samuel Padgett
2001-04-16  7:50           ` gnus-virgin.el (was: Re: A road map for Oort Gnus) Per Abrahamsen
2001-04-16 13:23             ` gnus-virgin.el Robin S. Socha
2001-04-17 10:52             ` gnus-virgin.el (was: Re: A road map for Oort Gnus) Didier Verna
2001-04-17 11:02               ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-04-17 12:00               ` Kai Großjohann
2001-04-17 12:30                 ` Didier Verna
2001-04-17 17:12                 ` Colin Marquardt
2001-04-17 21:04                 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-04-17  8:49   ` A road map for Oort Gnus Christoph Rohland
2001-04-17 15:09     ` Amos Gouaux
2001-04-17 15:31       ` Simon Josefsson
2001-04-18 13:17         ` Christoph Rohland
2001-04-17 15:39       ` Kai Großjohann
2001-04-14 10:58 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-04-14 13:22   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2001-04-14 13:42     ` Michael Livshin
2001-04-15 23:01       ` Kai Großjohann
2001-04-17 18:08     ` Didier Verna
2001-04-17 18:05       ` Kai Großjohann
2001-04-17 18:21         ` Didier Verna
2001-04-17 17:47   ` Didier Verna
2001-04-17 18:04     ` Kai Großjohann
2001-04-14 13:58 ` NAGY Andras
2001-04-14 21:51   ` Steinar Bang
2001-04-15 23:02   ` Kai Großjohann
2001-04-16  6:01     ` Amos Gouaux
2001-04-16 18:06       ` Doug Alcorn
2001-04-16 21:10   ` Paul Jarc

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