Re: Ugh! Ack! Argh! Nggh!

[Paul Stevenson <spaul@mail.phy.ornl.gov>]

Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> writes:

> Jack Vinson <vinson@unagi.cis.upenn.edu> writes:
> 
> > But his original point was that when Gnus asked him about creating a
> > group, it should _create the group_.  I just 'B c' on Kai's article
> > and answered with a new group name.  The following messages popped
> > into the minibuffer:
> > 
> > Creating mail directory w:/jmvins/private/Mail/jack_is_great/
> > Wrote w:/jmvins/private/Mail/jack_is_great/1
> > 
> > One would expect that group to be created, no?  If I look at my
> > *Group* buffer, it does not exist.
> 
> Try pressing `F' -- the group should spring into existence.

I just tried this (actually I `B m'ed some articles from one nnml group
to another which didn't yet exist). Gnus asked me if I wanted to create
the group so I said yes, and I saw the messages like Jack
indicated. 

Now I press `F' but it does not let me see the group. `j' followed by
the new group's name does, and shows that it was killed, so I subscribe
to it.

Now the new group /looks/ like any other, but I can't enter it (can't
select group). It's an nnml group, so I do nnml-generate-nov-databases
and that thinks for a while. Now the directory ~/Mail/mynewgroup has the
messages and an .overview file but still I can't select the group. 

What magic is needed ? (I know that if I restart gnus something occurs
which lets me read the group)  As Jack suggests, shouldn't creating a
new group default to subscribing to it, too?

Paul