From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/72909 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: James Cloos Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: shr.el: folding Japanese text Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 00:03:32 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8762xcvbsp.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1286776727 12567 80.91.229.12 (11 Oct 2010 05:58:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 05:58:47 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M21281@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Oct 11 07:58:46 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P5BPJ-0001kz-EC for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:58:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P5BON-0006wU-HK; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 00:57:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P5BOB-0006w9-1J for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 00:57:35 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P5BO3-0002Kw-LN for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 00:57:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eagle.jhcloos.com ([207.210.242.212]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1P5BO2-0003vG-00 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:57:26 +0200 Original-Received: by eagle.jhcloos.com (Postfix, from userid 10) id 11FDD400D0; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 05:56:55 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jhcloos.com; s=eagle; t=1286776639; bh=pT8rFA4rRpkFEYg26LoD9Xz7NOl57TCYMseMaRJmMB4=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lagpBNBhSomlfe3cDCqghIk+uUNmgTuTfpfRNRBfKk4lxJzv2UfqusSfszN3Z4VPF 7levzqnJiCHolEnyIsqVJGLAJfQsmQpgcigu5cQqZIztJm+kFSlx6kLs1UIFE7Ddo8 N/HeT4F45Ct0xKekY/C/J61BddRa/EzsF89a5bag= Original-Received: from carbon.jhcloos.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carbon.jhcloos.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10CF61DFABC for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 04:03:33 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:47:33 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQCAYAAAAf8/9hAAAABHNCSVQICAgIfAhkiAAAAI1J REFUOE+lU9ESgCAIg64P1y+ngUdxhl5H8wFbbM0OmUiEhKkCYaZThXCo6KE5sCbA1DDX3genvO4d eBQgEMaM5qy6uWk4SfBYfdu9jvBN9nSVDOKRtwb+I3epboOsOX5pZbJNsBJFvmQQ05YMfieIBnYX FK2N6dOawd97r/e8RjkTLzmMsiVgrAoEugtviCM3v2WzjgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== Copyright: Copyright 2009 James Cloos OpenPGP: ED7DAEA6; url=http://jhcloos.com/public_key/0xED7DAEA6.asc OpenPGP-Fingerprint: E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 Original-Lines: 21 X-Hashcash: 1:30:101011:ding@gnus.org::gdqwi2oJU6C1Mssw:0005dX/Z X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:72909 Archived-At: >>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: LMI> The problem is that Emacs says that `char-width' on the kanji is 2, LMI> while they're really 24 pixels wide, compared to the 10 pixels other LMI> characters are. In that case it is a general problem of font mismatch. Emacs is still heavily geared to mono- (or duo-) width fonts, even though I can display proportional faces. AFAICT it always guesses distances as a fixed number of character cells and compensates as best it can after trying to display a string. I'd love to see support for true proportional editing; it would make modes like cc much easier on the eyes. But simultaneously maintaining nice alignment for both charcell terminals and arbitrary sets of proportional fonts is a hard problem. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6