From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/57205 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Matthias Andree Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: mx.gnus.org being very strict Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 22:16:46 +0200 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87ad0p4p57.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> <20040503192543.GB21891@fencepost> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1083615439 12363 80.91.224.253 (3 May 2004 20:17:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 20:17:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Matthias Andree , ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M5745@lists.math.uh.edu Mon May 03 22:17:07 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BKjsA-0001yp-00 for ; Mon, 03 May 2004 22:17:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BKjs1-0000jb-00; Mon, 03 May 2004 15:16:57 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BKjrx-0000jW-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 03 May 2004 15:16:53 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BKjrv-0000zY-Qm for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 03 May 2004 15:16:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (krusty.dt.e-technik.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.163.1]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093A23A0207 for ; Mon, 3 May 2004 15:16:51 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from m2a2.dyndns.org (krusty.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.163.1]) by mail.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 485B32AB4A; Mon, 3 May 2004 22:16:50 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merlin.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7FD2BC0D3; Mon, 3 May 2004 22:16:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from merlin.emma.line.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (m2a2.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11874-05; Mon, 3 May 2004 22:16:46 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by merlin.emma.line.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 69A98BC0D2; Mon, 3 May 2004 22:16:46 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Miles Bader In-Reply-To: <20040503192543.GB21891@fencepost> (Miles Bader's message of "Mon, 3 May 2004 15:25:43 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at m2a2.dyndns.org Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57205 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57205 Miles Bader writes: > If you are a gateway, you should probably just be as transparent as you > can... Garbage in - Garbage out principle? No thanks, we've had enough of that. > It's the endpoints that know what's going on; when gateways try to interpret > things, they as often as not just muck things up. The relay in question does not muck up, it accepts (if properly formatted) or rejects. RFC-2822, RFC-2045..2049 are quite clear. As said before, the site in question has deliberately enabled this option, i. e. bounce defective mail rather than relay it, the default of the software in question, Postfix, is to ignore encoding defects. Still, Lars's script sent out garbage, and he simply had to take into account that such garbage is rejected somewhere. Better rejected than dropped by a spam killer, methinks. -- Matthias Andree Encrypted mail welcome: my GnuPG key ID is 0x052E7D95