From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/36049 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stainless Steel Rat Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: my 'dated' address (was Re: Quimby Upgrade) Date: 27 Apr 2001 22:22:24 -0400 Organization: The Happy Fun Ball Brigade Message-ID: References: <20010412214301.13340.qmail@nightshade.acl.lanl.gov> <01Apr27.154830edt.115489@gateway.intersys.com> <20010427160208.C17435@kens.com> <01Apr27.170545edt.115524@gateway.intersys.com> <01Apr27.173712edt.115316@gateway.intersys.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035171700 6497 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:41:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:41:40 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 25687 invoked by alias); 28 Apr 2001 02:22:26 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 25682 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2001 02:22:25 -0000 Original-Received: from h0060978d8c91.ne.mediaone.net (HELO peorth.gweep.net) (ratinox@24.147.75.115) by gnus.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 2001 02:22:25 -0000 Original-Received: (from ratinox@localhost) by peorth.gweep.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA01618; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 22:22:24 -0400 Original-To: "(ding)" X-Attribution: Rat In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) Original-Lines: 31 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:36049 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:36049 * prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) on Fri, 27 Apr 2001 | Well, if you don't want automatic removal of bouncing addresses, you | can avoid using the program that gives you that feature - and if you | don't want that program to be given to you by default, you can avoid | using the program that exhibits that default. Such are the benefits | of good factoring. It is the philosophy behind destructive fixes being default behaviour that is bad. It is like a version of fsck that deletes damaged files outright instead of putting them in the lost+found directory. Human intervention should always be required when destructive fixes are in effect, even if that intervention is as simple as the human switching it on and forgetting about it. [...] | Well, some use Emacs without Gnus, and some use qmail without ezmlm. It | doesn't work the other way, of course, but a real or perceived weakness | in Gnus or ezmlm shouldn't discourage one from using Emacs or qmail. qmail has the same flaws as ezmlm: bad default behaviour. | There are other mail readers that can be used with Emacs; there are other | MLMs that can be used with qmail; there are reasons to use Emacs and | qmail other than reading mail and serving mailing lists. Name one other list manager that works as well with qmail as Majordomo with sendmail or Postfix. It certainly isn't Mj; qmail hates it. -- Rat \ Caution: Happy Fun Ball may suddenly Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ accelerate to dangerous speeds. PGP Key: at a key server near you! \