From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/35653 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Quimby Upgrade Date: 05 Apr 2001 17:38:15 +0200 Sender: larsi@quimbies.gnus.org Message-ID: References: <20010405111030.D51587@kens.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035171363 4274 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:36:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:36:03 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 20718 invoked by alias); 5 Apr 2001 15:41:54 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 20713 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2001 15:41:54 -0000 Original-Received: from quimbies.gnus.org (195.204.10.148) by gnus.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 2001 15:41:54 -0000 Original-Received: (from larsi@localhost) by quimbies.gnus.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA19708; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:38:15 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: quimbies.gnus.org: larsi set sender to larsi@gnus.org using -f Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: Billy Bragg & Wilco's _Mermaid Avenue Volume 2_: "Hot Rod Hotel" Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <20010405111030.D51587@kens.com> ("Robin S. Socha"'s message of "Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:10:30 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) Emacs/20.6 X-Face: &w!^oO~dS|}-P0~ge{$c!h\ writes: > Yup. And now you go ahead and do the equivalent of > cd /usr/src && cvs up && make build > with Debian. $ apt-get update && apt-get upgrade And it actually *works*. Which is something that you can't say about BSD. > > Then I installed ports (from the same CD), and did the obligatory "cd > > /usr/ports/editors/emacs; make". And it broke. It didn't compile. > > (Something > > I see. I think you'll just love Linux. But get SuSE, it requires less > reading: > > (robin@socha.net):(/usr/ports/editors/emacs)$ grep FLAVOR Makefile > FLAVORS= no_x11 > FLAVOR?= > .if ${FLAVOR:L} == "no_x11" No, the problem was not with X; the problem was with libtool (which Emacs depends on) not compiling. That's called "a bug". That Emacs didn't compile even after libtool was installed, but failed when it didn't find X, was (naturally) something that I fixed in the Makefile. (It's probably "a feature".) I mean, it's impossible for installations to determine if they have X installed. Perhaps someone should invent something to allow systems to find that out. They could call it "configure" or something. > > Lars sad. > > No. Lars dyslexic luser. Lars not masochist. Diff'rent strokes, I guess. > > So I thought I'd just install a pre-compiled Emacs, so I pkd_add-ed > > it. It installed without a hitch, but when I tried to run it, it > > didn't work, since it didn't find the X libraries. > > Logged in to ftp.openbsd.org. > Current remote directory is /pub/OpenBSD/2.8/packages/i386. > ncftp ...nBSD/2.8/packages/i386 > ls *emacs*x11* > emacs-20.7-no_x11.tgz Wasn't included on the CD. > > Lars sadder. > > No. Lars patheticcer luser. Lars deserve Corel Easy Linux. Oh, BSD! Spank me harder! Make me *work*! I have *too* *much* *time* on my hands! Waste it! > > After staring at the error messages from ports, I found it that it > > failed when trying to compile libtool, so I installed a binary package > > of that, and then the ports Emacs compiled. > > Eh. You're supposed to be one of my lesser Gods, not such a total > lackwit. Did you *ever* read the docs? Or at least the Makefile? So libtool wasn't supposed to compile? I guess it was documented. That's ok, then. > > I was no longer sad, but I was also distinctly unimpressed. > > Now, just imagine how your poor BSD must feel. *sniff* I can imagine how it felt. It got its jollies. I jumped through its hoops. I wasted my time. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen