* Post with different address?
@ 1998-08-24 19:40 Anders Melchiorsen
1998-08-25 6:10 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Anders Melchiorsen @ 1998-08-24 19:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
I have set some posting styles to let me use a different, spammer
confusing e-mail address (see above) when posting to widely spread
groups or mailing lists. However, I still like my unaltered address to
be used in personal e-mails.
The problem is that if I reply (as opposed to follow up) in a
newsgroup the obfuscated address is still used. Is there a way to,
within the same group, use a different address for replies than for
follow ups?
I guess I am looking for some clever function to determine if I am
replying or following up, but I am not too fluent in Lisp so I cannot
figure out how to implement this, I must sadly admit.
I would much rather implement this as part of the posting styles than
as some hook, but if a hook is the only way I will definately
appreciate response on how to do that.
The relevant part of my posting styles looks like this:
(setq gnus-posting-styles
'((".*"
(address "postmaster@and.nospam.kampsax.k-net.dk")
)
("^nnml:mail\\|k-net\\|list.netgrp"
(address "name@real.address.dk"))))
Thanks!
--
Regards, Anders
(address is valid)
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Corollaries:
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(2) The experiment may be considered a success if no more than 50% of the
observed measurements must be discarded to obtain a correspondence
with the theory.
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* Re: Post with different address?
1998-08-24 19:40 Post with different address? Anders Melchiorsen
@ 1998-08-25 6:10 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-08-25 12:08 ` Anders Melchiorsen
1998-08-25 12:55 ` Anders Melchiorsen
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-08-25 6:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
Anders Melchiorsen <postmaster@and.nospam.kampsax.k-net.dk> writes:
> I have set some posting styles to let me use a different, spammer
> confusing e-mail address (see above) when posting to widely spread
> groups or mailing lists. However, I still like my unaltered address to
> be used in personal e-mails.
This is not a good idea. The From header in all news articles should
be valid.
> The problem is that if I reply (as opposed to follow up) in a
> newsgroup the obfuscated address is still used. Is there a way to,
> within the same group, use a different address for replies than for
> follow ups?
Yes. You can check the dynamically bound variables
`message-this-is-{news,mail}'. I've now documented this in the
manual.
Doing stuff like this still means sending out mails with invalid From
header when doing combined messages.
I do receive some mails with invalid From headers, and I never
notice. When they bounce, I let them drop. I do not try to figure
out what the real address is supposed to be. I'm probably not the
only one, so mangling From headers is not only a bad idea for
ideological reasons, but in practice as well.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Post with different address?
1998-08-25 6:10 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1998-08-25 12:08 ` Anders Melchiorsen
1998-08-25 12:55 ` Anders Melchiorsen
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From: Anders Melchiorsen @ 1998-08-25 12:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> This is not a good idea. The From header in all news articles should
> be valid.
I know. And my From address is, in fact, valid (see signature). I find
it quite clever to actually INCLUDE a "nospam." part in the address
and thus confuse spamming software; the only problem is if humans
start messing with the address because they are used to invalid From
headers. Removing "nospam." WILL make the address invalid.
> Yes. You can check the dynamically bound variables
> `message-this-is-{news,mail}'. I've now documented this in the
> manual.
Thanks, I will try to get something going.
> I do receive some mails with invalid From headers, and I never
> notice. When they bounce, I let them drop. I do not try to figure
> out what the real address is supposed to be. I'm probably not the
> only one, so mangling From headers is not only a bad idea for
> ideological reasons, but in practice as well.
I feel exactly the same way which is why I am using a valid From
header. But to confuse people as little as possible I still would want
mails to have my "real" address.
--
Regards, Anders
(address is valid)
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* Re: Post with different address?
1998-08-25 6:10 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-08-25 12:08 ` Anders Melchiorsen
@ 1998-08-25 12:55 ` Anders Melchiorsen
1998-08-25 16:24 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Anders Melchiorsen @ 1998-08-25 12:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Yes. You can check the dynamically bound variables
> `message-this-is-{news,mail}'. I've now documented this in the
> manual.
I have tried to do this, and while it works for newsgroups it does
nothing different for mailing lists.
Is there a way to distinguish whether I am sending a reply to the
mailing list or if I am in fact answering someone personally? (F or R
keys used to reply).
`message-this-is-mail' seems to be the same in either case, as does
checking on the name on the group. That actually seems correct so
perhaps I am simply asking for too much? :-).
--
Regards, Anders
(address is valid)
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* Re: Post with different address?
1998-08-25 12:55 ` Anders Melchiorsen
@ 1998-08-25 16:24 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-08-25 16:50 ` Kai Grossjohann
1998-08-25 18:12 ` Jari Aalto+list.ding
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-08-25 16:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
Anders Melchiorsen <postmaster@and.nospam.kampsax.k-net.dk> writes:
> Is there a way to distinguish whether I am sending a reply to the
> mailing list or if I am in fact answering someone personally?
Uhm... I don't think so.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Post with different address?
1998-08-25 16:24 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1998-08-25 16:50 ` Kai Grossjohann
1998-08-25 17:06 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-08-25 18:12 ` Jari Aalto+list.ding
1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Kai Grossjohann @ 1998-08-25 16:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Anders Melchiorsen <postmaster@and.nospam.kampsax.k-net.dk> writes:
>
> > Is there a way to distinguish whether I am sending a reply to the
> > mailing list or if I am in fact answering someone personally?
>
> Uhm... I don't think so.
Hm. After `r', the buffer is named `*reply to...*', after `f', it is
named `*wide reply to...*'. Does that help? Maybe there's an
internal variable other than the buffer name which can be used?
kai
--
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* Re: Post with different address?
1998-08-25 16:50 ` Kai Grossjohann
@ 1998-08-25 17:06 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-08-25 17:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kai Grossjohann <grossjohann@amaunet.cs.uni-dortmund.de> writes:
> Hm. After `r', the buffer is named `*reply to...*', after `f', it is
> named `*wide reply to...*'. Does that help? Maybe there's an
> internal variable other than the buffer name which can be used?
The buffer name would probably be the most likely suspect, I think.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Post with different address?
1998-08-25 16:24 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-08-25 16:50 ` Kai Grossjohann
@ 1998-08-25 18:12 ` Jari Aalto+list.ding
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From: Jari Aalto+list.ding @ 1998-08-25 18:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
| 1998-08-25 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> list.ding
| Anders Melchiorsen <postmaster@and.nospam.kampsax.k-net.dk> writes:
|
| > Is there a way to distinguish whether I am sending a reply to the
| > mailing list or if I am in fact answering someone personally?
|
| Uhm... I don't think so.
I make the decision based on Group parameter to-list. If it exists
for group, then this group is mailing list. At least I have set
all Mailing list groups so.
(gnus-group-get-parameter group 'to-list)
jari
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