From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/77937 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: James Cloos Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: IMAP and IDLE... Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:30:20 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8739mmvmso.fsf@myles.home.wjsullivan.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1300393942 2922 80.91.229.12 (17 Mar 2011 20:32:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:32:22 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26254@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Mar 17 21:32:18 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0Jri-00017G-51 for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:32:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0Jrf-0004SJ-31; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:32:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0Jrd-0004Rz-GX for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:32:09 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0JrQ-0006e6-Ig for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:32:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eagle.jhcloos.com ([207.210.242.212]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0JrP-0002yN-N5 for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:31:55 +0100 Original-Received: by eagle.jhcloos.com (Postfix, from userid 10) id C9B65402BA; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:31:30 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jhcloos.com; s=eagle; t=1300393914; bh=/xfhcell+NKgMQ3afGyUqUvfkPenl37LBh8uN6CQUDY=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tTVz2DPF1UNWtZEBNE3acIJ/cMdi+NKbf5iaFFaqFGrVsn2swDTrrvNnK67bt7HDC UTY6FqSPn7uCljcck3POJYIrrZ3LqhzEgZyZqDsj9a8ohoOKFzhpseYupYoOI7/wNS htmq3whuBUAfwtR805hyknY6OWIYUc7gIi7koTIw= Original-Received: by carbon.jhcloos.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id F091C260039; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:30:20 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:19:15 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110014 (No Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQAgMAAABinRfyAAAACVBMVEX///8ZGXBQKKnCrDQ3 AAAAJElEQVQImWNgQAAXzwQg4SKASgAlXIEEiwsSIYBEcLaAtMEAADJnB+kKcKioAAAAAElFTkSu QmCC Copyright: Copyright 2011 James Cloos OpenPGP: ED7DAEA6; url=http://jhcloos.com/public_key/0xED7DAEA6.asc OpenPGP-Fingerprint: E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 Original-Lines: 26 X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:77937 Archived-At: >>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: LMI> John Sullivan writes: >> I'd also be very interested to see if this ends up fixing my bug with >> incoming new mail being marked read without me seeing it :). LMI> Probably not. :-) The incoming mail marked read bug is almost certainly one of the many bugs caused by trying to store the metadata on the imap server rather than in .newsrc.eld. The code which is run when exiting a group probably changes the marks on all of the mail in the group rather than just on the mail of which gnus is already aware. If you run g, wait for some new mail to arrive, and only then enter the group, the new mail does not show. But, I bet, that unseen mail still gets marked read (or otherwise modified) when you exit the group. And thus appears to gnus to be old the next time you enter that group. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6