* Improve G m to make it more user friendly?
@ 2004-07-14 13:40 Kai Grossjohann
2004-07-14 18:31 ` Simon Josefsson
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From: Kai Grossjohann @ 2004-07-14 13:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
G m INBOX.foo RET nnimap:bar RET creates the group
nnimap+bar:INBOX.foo.
I see two problems with this:
(1) I need to enter "INBOX.foo" first and "nnimap:bar" last, but the
group name has it the other way round.
(2) I need to enter "nnimap:bar" to have "nnimap+bar" appear in the
group name.
WDYT?
Kai
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* Re: Improve G m to make it more user friendly?
2004-07-14 13:40 Improve G m to make it more user friendly? Kai Grossjohann
@ 2004-07-14 18:31 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-07-17 15:35 ` Kai Grossjohann
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From: Simon Josefsson @ 2004-07-14 18:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kai Grossjohann <kai@emptydomain.de> writes:
> G m INBOX.foo RET nnimap:bar RET creates the group
> nnimap+bar:INBOX.foo.
>
> I see two problems with this:
>
> (1) I need to enter "INBOX.foo" first and "nnimap:bar" last, but the
> group name has it the other way round.
>
> (2) I need to enter "nnimap:bar" to have "nnimap+bar" appear in the
> group name.
>
> WDYT?
I agree, I always thought the G m command appeared unfinished somehow.
How about making it just G m nnimap+bar:INBOX.foo RET, making sure the
auto completion is smart enough to notice what field the user want to
complete?
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* Re: Improve G m to make it more user friendly?
2004-07-14 18:31 ` Simon Josefsson
@ 2004-07-17 15:35 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-07-17 17:26 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-07-18 14:48 ` Marcus Frings
0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Kai Grossjohann @ 2004-07-17 15:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:
> How about making it just G m nnimap+bar:INBOX.foo RET, making sure the
> auto completion is smart enough to notice what field the user want to
> complete?
That would be great!
Kai
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* Re: Improve G m to make it more user friendly?
2004-07-17 15:35 ` Kai Grossjohann
@ 2004-07-17 17:26 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-07-18 14:50 ` Marcus Frings
2004-07-18 14:48 ` Marcus Frings
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From: Simon Josefsson @ 2004-07-17 17:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kai Grossjohann <kai@emptydomain.de> writes:
> Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:
>
>> How about making it just G m nnimap+bar:INBOX.foo RET, making sure the
>> auto completion is smart enough to notice what field the user want to
>> complete?
>
> That would be great!
Yup. How about what's in CVS now? I didn't really test it.
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* Re: Improve G m to make it more user friendly?
2004-07-17 17:26 ` Simon Josefsson
@ 2004-07-18 14:50 ` Marcus Frings
2004-07-18 22:54 ` Simon Josefsson
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From: Marcus Frings @ 2004-07-18 14:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
* Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> wrote:
>>> How about making it just G m nnimap+bar:INBOX.foo RET, making sure the
>>> auto completion is smart enough to notice what field the user want to
>>> complete?
> Yup. How about what's in CVS now? I didn't really test it.
Doesn't seem to work. There's no tab-completion when I want to enter
something after "Group name:" in the mini buffer.
Regards,
Marcus
--
"Ist die Zeitkoordinate nur lang genug, sinkt die Überlebensquote auf Null."
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* Re: Improve G m to make it more user friendly?
2004-07-18 14:50 ` Marcus Frings
@ 2004-07-18 22:54 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-07-19 11:34 ` Marcus Frings
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From: Simon Josefsson @ 2004-07-18 22:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
Marcus Frings <iam-est-hora-surgere@despammed.com> writes:
> * Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> wrote:
>
>>>> How about making it just G m nnimap+bar:INBOX.foo RET, making sure the
>>>> auto completion is smart enough to notice what field the user want to
>>>> complete?
>
>> Yup. How about what's in CVS now? I didn't really test it.
>
> Doesn't seem to work. There's no tab-completion when I want to enter
> something after "Group name:" in the mini buffer.
Did you recompile Gnus and restart Emacs? The prompt in the new code
should be "Group:" and not "Group name:".
If not, (setq debug-on-signal t) and C-g at the prompt and post the
backtrace. Did you invoke it by `G m'?
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* Re: Improve G m to make it more user friendly?
2004-07-18 22:54 ` Simon Josefsson
@ 2004-07-19 11:34 ` Marcus Frings
2004-07-20 12:37 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
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From: Marcus Frings @ 2004-07-19 11:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
* Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> wrote:
> Did you recompile Gnus and restart Emacs? The prompt in the new code
> should be "Group:" and not "Group name:".
> If not, (setq debug-on-signal t) and C-g at the prompt and post the
> backtrace. Did you invoke it by `G m'?
Yes, I called `G m' but it's working now. I think that yesterday I
restarted Gnus only and not Emacs as well. At least I have "Group:" now
and tab-completion works (with the same CVS Gnus from yesterday).
Regards,
Marcus
--
"Natürlich greift der Virus Zonealarm an, er hätte ja sonst keine Chance
durchzukommen. Das bestätigt das ZA eine zusätzliche Sicherung darstellt."
Theo Gottwald in dcsm unter <bcf5gi$pr4$1@online.de>
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* Re: Improve G m to make it more user friendly?
2004-07-19 11:34 ` Marcus Frings
@ 2004-07-20 12:37 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2004-07-25 13:20 ` Harry Putnam
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Katsumi Yamaoka @ 2004-07-20 12:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
The new `G m' command looks nice to me, but...
Try the following:
mv .newsrc.eld newsrc.eld
mv .newsrc newsrc
mv .gnus.el gnus.el
emacs -f gnus
Then, how do we make the nnml:inbox group? Typing `G m
nnml:inbox RET' creates the `inbox' group, not `nnml:inbox'.
Because the nnml server has not been activated yet, maybe. In
other words, should new users type `M-x gnus-group-make-group'
instead of `G m'? :)
--
Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org>
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* Re: Improve G m to make it more user friendly?
2004-07-20 12:37 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
@ 2004-07-25 13:20 ` Harry Putnam
2004-07-26 16:37 ` Simon Josefsson
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Harry Putnam @ 2004-07-25 13:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> writes:
> The new `G m' command looks nice to me, but...
>
> Try the following:
>
> mv .newsrc.eld newsrc.eld
> mv .newsrc newsrc
> mv .gnus.el gnus.el
> emacs -f gnus
>
> Then, how do we make the nnml:inbox group? Typing `G m
> nnml:inbox RET' creates the `inbox' group, not `nnml:inbox'.
> Because the nnml server has not been activated yet, maybe. In
> other words, should new users type `M-x gnus-group-make-group'
> instead of `G m'? :)
I think Katsumi's point is well taken. I just stumbled into this
after a recent cvs update.
I wanted to create an nnml group but I see no way to do that with the
new `G m' code.
Typing `G m' gives me a `Group:' prompt. Already its more confusing
than the old way. As I recall the old way prompt had the word `name'
in it somewhere, so it was clear this was the final name being
requested. Skipping that for a moment.
Neither nnml:bperl<RET> nor bperl<RET> results in the desired
nnml:bperl.
I don't think this is really usable as it is.
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* Re: Improve G m to make it more user friendly?
2004-07-25 13:20 ` Harry Putnam
@ 2004-07-26 16:37 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-07-26 18:21 ` Harry Putnam
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Simon Josefsson @ 2004-07-26 16:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> writes:
>
>> The new `G m' command looks nice to me, but...
>>
>> Try the following:
>>
>> mv .newsrc.eld newsrc.eld
>> mv .newsrc newsrc
>> mv .gnus.el gnus.el
>> emacs -f gnus
>>
>> Then, how do we make the nnml:inbox group? Typing `G m
>> nnml:inbox RET' creates the `inbox' group, not `nnml:inbox'.
>> Because the nnml server has not been activated yet, maybe. In
>> other words, should new users type `M-x gnus-group-make-group'
>> instead of `G m'? :)
>
> I think Katsumi's point is well taken. I just stumbled into this
> after a recent cvs update.
>
> I wanted to create an nnml group but I see no way to do that with the
> new `G m' code.
>
> Typing `G m' gives me a `Group:' prompt. Already its more confusing
> than the old way. As I recall the old way prompt had the word `name'
> in it somewhere, so it was clear this was the final name being
> requested. Skipping that for a moment.
>
> Neither nnml:bperl<RET> nor bperl<RET> results in the desired
> nnml:bperl.
> I don't think this is really usable as it is.
Ok, I reverted part of the patch, so that `G m' now work as before.
`gnus-group-make-group-simple' is still available, though, if someone
wants to use it. Perhaps there can be a separate key/menu binding for
*-simple, since the function might be useful for some.
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* Re: Improve G m to make it more user friendly?
2004-07-26 16:37 ` Simon Josefsson
@ 2004-07-26 18:21 ` Harry Putnam
0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Harry Putnam @ 2004-07-26 18:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:
>> Neither nnml:bperl<RET> nor bperl<RET> results in the desired
>> nnml:bperl.
>> I don't think this is really usable as it is.
>
> Ok, I reverted part of the patch, so that `G m' now work as before.
> `gnus-group-make-group-simple' is still available, though, if someone
> wants to use it. Perhaps there can be a separate key/menu binding for
> *-simple, since the function might be useful for some.
Sounds smart... thanks
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* Re: Improve G m to make it more user friendly?
2004-07-17 15:35 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-07-17 17:26 ` Simon Josefsson
@ 2004-07-18 14:48 ` Marcus Frings
1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Marcus Frings @ 2004-07-18 14:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
* Kai Grossjohann <kai@emptydomain.de> wrote:
> Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:
>> How about making it just G m nnimap+bar:INBOX.foo RET, making sure the
>> auto completion is smart enough to notice what field the user want to
>> complete?
> That would be great!
I would like to second this!
Regards,
Marcus
--
"I had a face on the mirror
I had a hand on the gun
I had a place in the sun and a
Ticket to Syria"
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