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Reiner Steib <4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de> writes:

> Some minor problems (see the comments about "load-path shadows" in the
> script):
>
> # Not needed for GNU Emacs (XEmacs compatibility library)
>   $rm gnus/gnus-xmas.el{,c}

Also messagexmas.el, nnheaderxm.el, dgnushack.el gnus-load.el and
lpath.el.

> # Gnus can use the file from net/ instead:
>   $rm gnus/netrc.el{,c}

I think netrc.el is primarily maintained in Gnus, so the Gnus version
should be used.

> # The version from calendar/ lacks `time-to-number-of-days'
>   $rm calendar/time-date.el{,c}

Ditto.

> manuals="emacs-mime.texi gnus-faq.texi gnus.texi message.texi
>          pgg.texi sieve.texi"

We should remove the @iflatex stuff from gnus.texi

    sed -e '/@iflatex/,/@end iflatex/d' $< >

otherwise you can't use the normal procedure to tex it.

Other stuff to consider:

* The refcard.  emacs/etc already has refcards for dired, viper
  etc. so we might as well include it.

* The ChangeLogs.

* Fix some of the numerous byte-compiler warnings you get when you
  compile Gnus as a part of Emacs [1].

* Maybe some other files from Gnus should go to net/, e.g. dig.el,
  dns.el ... -- I don't know.

[1] In some ways I think we're doing ourselves a disservice with the
    elaborate compilation scheme.  With cvs Emacs (at least) most of
    it should be unnecessary because `(if (fboundp' kills the
    warnings.