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I wrote:
> Matthias Andree <ma@dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de> wrote:
>> What does nnmaildir.el and possibly other maildir code in Gnus do when
>> it is about to move a mail from new/ to cur/? Does it rely on uniqueness
>> and will it -- as mutt -- accidentally kill an already-present file in
>> cur/?
>
> Yes.

I was wrong.  nnmaildir will raise an error if the file already
exists.

>> It seems that Postfix, Courier and Maildrop will settle on using the
>> tmp/* file inode number for the <unique> part in new/, so these
>> applications will rename from tmp/time.pid_count.hostname to
>> new/time.inode.hostname.
>
> That sounds like a good idea.

After reading more in the qmail archives, I think I'll do what
qmail-pop3d does: leave message in new/ (so that attempted deliveries
with the same filename will fail) until the second is over.


paul