From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/49021 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Getting started with spam filtering Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 21:07:23 -0500 Organization: =?koi8-r?q?=F4=C5=CF=C4=CF=D2=20=FA=CC=C1=D4=C1=CE=CF=D7?= @ Cienfuegos Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <84u1gkfa84.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> <4n65szll2k.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> <4nr8bmb8bd.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> <87znq9vrfb.fsf@emacswiki.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1042164266 7846 80.91.224.249 (10 Jan 2003 02:04:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 02:04:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18WoX2-00022Q-00 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 03:04:24 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18WoXn-0002bA-00; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 20:05:11 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 09 Jan 2003 20:06:07 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (sclp3.sclp.com [66.230.238.2]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA20053 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 20:05:55 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 16414 invoked by alias); 10 Jan 2003 02:04:55 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 16409 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2003 02:04:55 -0000 Original-Received: from ns1.beld.net (208.229.215.81) by 66.230.238.6 with SMTP; 10 Jan 2003 02:04:55 -0000 Original-Received: from heechee.beld.net (dhcp-0-30-bd-1-93-b2.cpe.beld.net [24.233.65.6]) by ns1.beld.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753583BAD3; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 21:04:53 -0500 (EST) Original-To: Alex Schroeder X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Followup-To: Alex Schroeder , ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <87znq9vrfb.fsf@emacswiki.org> (Alex Schroeder's message of "Fri, 10 Jan 2003 00:23:20 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090011 (Oort Gnus v0.11) Emacs/21.2 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:49021 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:49021 On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, alex@emacswiki.org wrote: > Hm. While this will basically work, what happens if somebody does > > (require 'spam-stat) > (require 'spam) > etc. > > I think the hooks will be installed nevertheless. So users shouldn't do it :) The idea is you use either spam-stat.el or spam.el but not both normally (because spam.el can include spam-stat.el for you). > But then again -- what's so bad about the hooks? All they do is > store a copy of the article text in another buffer. Sure, it takes > some time. But so what? I would assume Gnus doesn't need to be any slower than it already is. If people *want* the extra slowness, they can load the two as you indicated above. But I see no reason, if we can help it, to add extra processing when spam-stat.el is loaded by spam.el. Are you OK with the other changes in the patch? Ted