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Subject: Re: TMDA (was: new spam functionality added)
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Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> wrote:
>>>>>> prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc):
>> As long as the person is validated, why do you care which address
>> is used for the validation?
>
> I want the address used when I do `r' to be a valid, working address.
>
> Mainly because I'm tired of editing "deletethis" or "ihatespam" out of
> the From addresses of bounced messages, before doing a resend (or not,
> as the case may be).

Nothing on your end can stop people from sending you messages like
that.  If you started using a TMDA that sent confirmation requests to
the From address, you'd just see bounced confirmation requests for
those nonexistent addresses instead of the original messages - or if
for some reason you didn't see those bounces, those messages would
silently disappear, without any indication to the sender as to why.


paul