Replacing "AW:" with "Re:"

Replacing "AW:" with "Re:"

[Jochen Lillich]

Hi!

The Gnus manual says in "Washing Mail":

	Case in point: The German version of Microsoft Exchange adds
	`AW: ' to the subjects of replies instead of `Re: '.  I could
	pretend to be shocked and dismayed by this, but I haven't got
	the energy.  It is to laugh.

But it doesn't say how to actually do something about that. Now, how
do I replace this annoying "AW:" by "Re:"?

Thanks,
	Jochen

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Re: Replacing "AW:" with "Re:"

[Jens Kloecker]

>>>>> "jl" == Jochen Lillich <jochen@dynamis.de> writes:

    jl> Hi!
    jl> The Gnus manual says in "Washing Mail":

    jl> 	Case in point: The German version of Microsoft
    jl> 	Exchange adds `AW: ' to the subjects of replies
    jl> 	instead of `Re: '.  I could pretend to be shocked and
    jl> 	dismayed by this, but I haven't got the energy.  It is
    jl> 	to laugh.

    jl> But it doesn't say how to actually do something about
    jl> that. Now, how do I replace this annoying "AW:" by "Re:"?

I use

(defun jk-change-outlook-headers ()
  "Change AW: to Re:
   in mails produced by the German version of Microsoft Exchange."
  (goto-char (point-min))
  (if (re-search-forward "^X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service" nil t)
      (progn
	(goto-char (point-min))
	(if (re-search-forward "^\\(Subject: \\)AW:" nil t)
	    (replace-match "\\1Re:" t)))))

(add-hook 'nnmail-prepare-incoming-header-hook 'jk-change-outlook-headers)

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Jens Kloecker
Electronic Technologies, Springer-Verlag
email: kloecker@springer.de

Re: Replacing "AW:" with "Re:"

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Jochen Lillich <jochen@dynamis.de>:

> The Gnus manual says in "Washing Mail":

> 	Case in point: The German version of Microsoft Exchange adds
> 	`AW: ' to the subjects of replies instead of `Re: '.  I could
> 	pretend to be shocked and dismayed by this, but I haven't got
> 	the energy.  It is to laugh.

> But it doesn't say how to actually do something about that. Now, how
> do I replace this annoying "AW:" by "Re:"?

Personally I use the following procmail rule to wash subject fields
before gnus even sees them:

:0 fhw
| /usr/bin/perl -ne "s/^(Subject:)\s+(S[Vv]:\s*|AW:\s*|Ad:\s*|R[eE](\(\d+\))?:\s*)+/\1 Re: /g;s/^(Subject:)\s+(=\?((iso|ISO)-8859-1|us-ascii)\?Q\?)((S[Vv]|AW|Ad|R[eE](\(\d+\))?)(:|=3[Aa])_*)+/\1 \2Re:_/g; s/\042\'([^\']*)\'\042/\042\1\042/g ; print"

(As well as AW, this takes care of "Ad", "SV" and "RE", and the
"galloping Re: SV: Re: syndrome...)

Unfortunately this doesn't help with USENET messages. :-/

I'm also unable to cover BASE64 encoded subjects (Oh yes!  Exchange
and Outlook variants cover them all...).

Re: Replacing "AW:" with "Re:"

[Robert Bihlmeyer]

Hi,

>>>>> On 16 Sep 1999 13:03:58 +0200
>>>>> Steinar Bang <sb@metis.no> said:

 Steinar> I'm also unable to cover BASE64 encoded subjects

You mean =?ISO-8859-X?B?....? stuff? Hmm, Gnus should grok these.

        Robbe

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Re: Replacing "AW:" with "Re:"

[Lars Balker Rasmussen]

Steinar Bang <sb@metis.no> writes:
> (As well as AW, this takes care of "Ad", "SV" and "RE", and the
> "galloping Re: SV: Re: syndrome...)
> 
> Unfortunately this doesn't help with USENET messages. :-/

I found that most of the problem disappeared with the following:

  (setq gnus-simplify-ignored-prefixes "^\\(Sv: \\|Re: \\)+"
        gnus-simplify-subject-functions '(gnus-simplify-subject
					  gnus-simplify-whitespace))

(fill in your favourite Re-variants).

I don't bother with removing them from articles.  Damned if I want to
waste my time cleaning up after Mickeysoft.
-- 
Lars Balker Rasmussen                                           "Woo hoo!?"

Re: Replacing "AW:" with "Re:"

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Lars Balker Rasmussen <lbr@image.dk>:

> Steinar Bang <sb@metis.no> writes:
>> (As well as AW, this takes care of "Ad", "SV" and "RE", and the
>> "galloping Re: SV: Re: syndrome...)
>> 
>> Unfortunately this doesn't help with USENET messages. :-/

> I found that most of the problem disappeared with the following:

>   (setq gnus-simplify-ignored-prefixes "^\\(Sv: \\|Re: \\)+"
>         gnus-simplify-subject-functions '(gnus-simplify-subject
> 					  gnus-simplify-whitespace))

> (fill in your favourite Re-variants).

Does this fix subjects in summary listings?  Or just in the article
itself? 

Re: Replacing "AW:" with "Re:"

[Lars Balker Rasmussen]

Steinar Bang <sb@metis.no> writes:
> >>>>> Lars Balker Rasmussen <lbr@image.dk>:
> >   (setq gnus-simplify-ignored-prefixes "^\\(Sv: \\|Re: \\)+"
> >         gnus-simplify-subject-functions '(gnus-simplify-subject
> > 					  gnus-simplify-whitespace))
> 
> Does this fix subjects in summary listings?  Or just in the article
> itself? 

Only in summary listings.  It doesn't bother me in the article itself.
-- 
Lars Balker Rasmussen                                           "Woo hoo!?"

Re: Replacing "AW:" with "Re:"

[Jan Rychter]

>>>>> "Steinar" == Steinar Bang <sb@metis.no>:
>>>>> Jochen Lillich <jochen@dynamis.de>:
 >> The Gnus manual says in "Washing Mail":

 >> Case in point: The German version of Microsoft Exchange adds `AW: '
 >> to the subjects of replies instead of `Re: '.  I could pretend to be
 >> shocked and dismayed by this, but I haven't got the energy.  It is
 >> to laugh.

 >> But it doesn't say how to actually do something about that. Now, how
 >> do I replace this annoying "AW:" by "Re:"?

 Steinar> Personally I use the following procmail rule to wash subject
 Steinar> fields before gnus even sees them:
[...]
 Steinar> (As well as AW, this takes care of "Ad", "SV" and "RE", and
 Steinar> the "galloping Re: SV: Re: syndrome...)

 Steinar> Unfortunately this doesn't help with USENET messages. :-/
[...]

We have a similar problem here in Poland with "Odp:". I wrote a couple
of functions that take care of the problem in Gnus (I won't post them,
several nice solutions were already proposed). However, whenever I
reply to any mail and my functions kick in, they also insert a notice
that the Subject line has been processed in that way and refer people to 
a web page that explains how horribly broken Microsoft programs are.

As far as USENET is concerned, we have (with a couple of fellow
newsadmins) recently inserted appropriate filtering rules into
filter_nnrpd.pl on most large newsservers in Poland. They cut the crap
from subject lines and insert a notice into X-Notice headers. I can only
recommend that approach to newsadmins worldwide.

--J.