Debian's install-info

Debian's install-info

[Katsumi Yamaoka]

Hi,

Does anyone know why does Gnus exclude Debian's install-info
program?  Here is an extract from the texi/Makefile.in file:

install: $(INFO_DEPS)
[...]
	@if $(SHELL) -c 'install-info --version | sed 1q | fgrep -s -v -i debian' >/dev/null 2>&1; then \

It seems to have been imported from the emacs-lisp-intro
package.  However, I couldn't find such a thing now in the Emacs
CVS head.  I got a doubt about it from a Debian user.  See the
following two threads:

http://thread.gmane.org/874qsl5ca5.fsf@deb02.jinr.ru
http://thread.gmane.org/yotlbrms9ubq.fsf@jpl.org

Regards,
-- 
Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org>

Re: Debian's install-info

[Jesper Harder]

Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> writes:

> Does anyone know why does Gnus exclude Debian's install-info
> program?  Here is an extract from the texi/Makefile.in file:
>
> install: $(INFO_DEPS)
> [...]
> 	@if $(SHELL) -c 'install-info --version | sed 1q | fgrep -s -v -i debian' >/dev/null 2>&1; then \


The newest version of automake/autoconf still produces something equivalent:

@if (install-info --version && \
     install-info --version 2>&1 | sed 1q | grep -i -v debian) >/dev/null 2>&1; then \

for a new project, so presumeably there is still a need for it.  I
don't know why, though.

Re: Debian's install-info

[Alan Shutko]

Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> writes:

> Does anyone know why does Gnus exclude Debian's install-info
> program?  Here is an extract from the texi/Makefile.in file:

Debian uses an install-info program which is not compatible with the
GNU version.  Or, at least, used to.  There were some murmurings
about switching or making them compatible, but I don't believe
it's happened.

-- 
Alan Shutko <ats@acm.org> - I am the rocks.

Re: Debian's install-info

[Katsumi Yamaoka]

>>>>> In <m38yhsxvde.fsf@defun.localdomain>
>>>>>	Jesper Harder <harder@ifa.au.dk> wrote:

> The newest version of automake/autoconf still produces something equivalent:

> @if (install-info --version && \
>      install-info --version 2>&1 | sed 1q | grep -i -v debian) >/dev/null 2>&1; then \

> for a new project, so presumeably there is still a need for it.  I
> don't know why, though.

Thanks.  I also found many packages exclude Debian's install-info,
and what should be mentioned specially is the following ChangeLog
entry in glibc-2.3.2:

1997-07-15  Marcus G. Daniels  <marcus@cathcart.sysc.pdx.edu>

	* manual/Makefile (INSTALL_INFO): Introduce variable to override
	path to install-info for systems like Debian that have an
	install-info with a different command line interface from the
	canonical GNU texinfo version.

According to the manual/Makefile file, it seems necessary to
specify the section name to Debian's install-info program like:

install-info --info-dir=DIR --section '^Gnus:' 'Gnus:' ./gnus

Although Artiom Neganov wrote that the present install-info of
Debian works with the same command line arguments as the GNU
version, I leave the solution to Debian maintainers since I'm
not a Debian user.

;; I'll forward this message to Artiom Neganov and the emacs-w3m
;; list.
-- 
Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org>

Re: Debian's install-info

[Kai Grossjohann]

Alan Shutko <ats@acm.org> writes:

> Debian uses an install-info program which is not compatible with the
> GNU version.  Or, at least, used to.  There were some murmurings
> about switching or making them compatible, but I don't believe
> it's happened.

Emacs (CVS version) invokes install-info in a way that does something
useful for both the GNU and Debian flavors.  I guess Gnus could do the
same.

WDYT?

Kai

Re: Debian's install-info

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Kai Grossjohann <kai@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> writes:

> Emacs (CVS version) invokes install-info in a way that does something
> useful for both the GNU and Debian flavors.  I guess Gnus could do the
> same.
>
> WDYT?

Sounds like a good thing.  :-)

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen