From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/80304 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: smtp crap Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:46:16 +0200 Message-ID: References: <8739f4kzp3.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ipo0p1bc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <58C87CB9F44943A7BBE78F2D6B62A850@us.oracle.com> <83botsf06d.fsf@gnu.org> <83k48cxj85.fsf@gnu.org> <83fwizxwy1.fsf@gnu.org> <838vorxrbd.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318362422 7119 80.91.229.12 (11 Oct 2011 19:47:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:47:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , drew.adams@oracle.com, miles@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 11 21:46:57 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RDiHv-0007EU-JT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:46:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41559 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDiHv-0002nA-8k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:46:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:57236) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDiHr-0002mp-F6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:46:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDiHq-0000hE-5O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:46:51 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:34392) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDiHo-0000gC-IN; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:46:48 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RDiHb-00017d-Vz; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:46:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: <838vorxrbd.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:26:46 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEUAAAAxJCYaExSUgHcG BAUlGhxENjYBAAFRnSEYAAACbUlEQVQ4jW2UQXObMBCFNZ3McO3akXK1iZWcHRx6dVJsXw2N6FmV 2V5ph0Z/v28FcZI2Ox4Q+vR2l2XXajVUj3leE8NC8Wqqz2KsYDnMvVqueqWy6KtT57k67Q3f7Gc/ qlVVCVDKD35zWew2+7Db67tL8SDbmfJ/5pun4rl7DnRzN7+KMQ4qGfNXPpV8/SuY07r7EmMfcVw0 uPc4t79NmQBMCrE+ZmoJH8j+dnQ1SKzqEKsBF9lvmgMUvXog0nVKXssL1ETkFhdQAGA5Gs6QkEWW gMczdkdZXZsX4JkhIWzJEaqN1xMwjLV2rWucMYbZ0yJKcAZgOKOWHJslvE6uEjAAQF1r4K6egBfg nKfGuZaoZT4mEOQjee00dZKUb2w7KkKJgJ0AbbpWTpljCh4KNiXSItZtV8Mt8+dsAkUoNRkzs0gB L8WLQW0lRqBQYp9n1jmDkOEoYAlQFqVHkVK5JMhVUmBZskhCJ7UqipJvK4D92FIC7tM+7Kcobjxx mBdrMvP1GYjiWlah7AwHgDaBk4AdPGnjO1OHtZ3ARsAjWrPuPLXt/N69A9Y1SwAjMfQZ9ABNjsqS 8abwJIUrissRWJkDABfKUKyZU3AA9EyO0nLnvhXyOmcgo2FRihkilzXNi/egJgGd0/DKTxiDOAFD 2hqjU2vRSuYjATxQY8cuxa2agM3RnNSAW2flnIxaJr2eVDmuq/TLD9MMvjG0R8QkD+pDi/+CPikw eCq+bF1sH/tPfbbI7DYT71GN06kujvmj/b1q8t0WId4oqu/57qGaOfuQb0VwOGfVy2zHeBgkDub0 v4QQIf3tqO2H6R6qvx+F743GotjpAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Laura Jean's _A Fool Who'll_: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22No=EBl=22?= X-MailScanner-ID: 1RDiHb-00017d-Vz MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1318967196.1973@tI2/G0bAb4YDfb4bj5xlEA X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144911 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:80304 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Then (2) should be reworded to say something like > > Use the system's default email program > > ("non-Emacs" is too negative, and "MUA" is not necessarily a known > acronym). It might be helpful if you're aware of what the current query is. It's this: --- Emacs has not been set up for sending mail. Type `y' to configure and use Emacs as a mail client, or `n' to use your system's default mailer. To change your decision later, customize `send-mail-function'. --- If you have a better help text to propose, this text is in the function `sendmail-query-once' in the file sendmail.el. Edit accordingly. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/