From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/72788 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: James Cloos Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Private/public groups Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 12:11:56 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1286554398 32689 80.91.229.12 (8 Oct 2010 16:13:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 16:13:18 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M21160@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Oct 08 18:13:17 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P4FZM-0008Gf-LN for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:13:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P4FZA-0006Jx-Mv; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:13:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P4FZ9-0006Jg-Cl for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:13:03 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P4FZ4-00013K-Tg for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:13:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eagle.jhcloos.com ([207.210.242.212]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1P4FZ4-0007gx-00 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:12:58 +0200 Original-Received: by eagle.jhcloos.com (Postfix, from userid 10) id 4EBD6400E5; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 16:12:32 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jhcloos.com; s=eagle; t=1286554376; bh=C/fUdDonr7ZU3l9mHPUF+RGgHCcBWpXunh10ekdvr9A=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dcn1fFyk2kKkrsdGv4ddVxd81QIc5mPNG0vKPedw6BFSVyPwdiCg6FqWFQJR/zA4e NeUz8ydpG6uSBDmJpXQb5okygXsu0RtYpcJt5NXM+S1/NqGIXuRORaKYtMd+QIPaVI rr4ZpMz+rLGfZeAr9yG2wxNCibLFR+UGnN0PgAuQ= Original-Received: from carbon.jhcloos.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carbon.jhcloos.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02E41DD148 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 16:11:56 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Fri, 08 Oct 2010 16:40:12 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQCAYAAAAf8/9hAAAABHNCSVQICAgIfAhkiAAAAI1J REFUOE+lU9ESgCAIg64P1y+ngUdxhl5H8wFbbM0OmUiEhKkCYaZThXCo6KE5sCbA1DDX3genvO4d eBQgEMaM5qy6uWk4SfBYfdu9jvBN9nSVDOKRtwb+I3epboOsOX5pZbJNsBJFvmQQ05YMfieIBnYX FK2N6dOawd97r/e8RjkTLzmMsiVgrAoEugtviCM3v2WzjgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== Copyright: Copyright 2009 James Cloos OpenPGP: ED7DAEA6; url=http://jhcloos.com/public_key/0xED7DAEA6.asc OpenPGP-Fingerprint: E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 Original-Lines: 24 X-Hashcash: 1:30:101008:ding@gnus.org::H+W/MRoxrEwtl1L0:000AHykH X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:72788 Archived-At: >>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: LMI> I was thinking about defaults for stuff like gnus-blocked-images LMI> and the gravatar stuff. You don't want that stuff to default to LMI> being on because of privacy concerns... but only in mail groups, LMI> I think? If you're reading a Gwene group, I think most people LMI> would want the images to default to being on, for instance. Bandwidth is also an issue. When behind most wireless links or dialup -- or even offline -- it is best to avoid implicit pulls. ANd there is also the issue of running gnus in a non-gui emacs session. On the low bandwidth side, I prefer to only grab images and the like on explicit command. By default I'd prefer something akin to elinks -dump style rendering: images and links tagged and listed end-note-style at the end of the page. And a key to toggle that to a GUI rendering. I'm sure others will have different preferences. But it is important to have a setting which does no net other than to the backends or when the user explicitly asks for it. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6