From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/46917 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Why does Gnus generates Lines: header in mail? Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 12:49:05 -0400 Organization: What did you have in mind? A short, blunt, human pyramid? Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87n0pzj9db.fsf@mail.paradoxical.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1033577489 12890 127.0.0.1 (2 Oct 2002 16:51:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 16:51:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17wmie-0003Li-00 for ; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 18:51:28 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17wmgj-0007LW-00; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 11:49:29 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 02 Oct 2002 11:50:09 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA00387 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:49:54 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 10819 invoked by alias); 2 Oct 2002 16:49:09 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 10814 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2002 16:49:09 -0000 Original-Received: from multivac.student.cwru.edu (HELO multivac.cwru.edu) (@129.22.96.25) by gnus.org with SMTP; 2 Oct 2002 16:49:09 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 10832 invoked by uid 500); 2 Oct 2002 16:49:27 -0000 Original-To: Clemens Fischer In-Reply-To: (Clemens Fischer's message of "Tue, 01 Oct 2002 11:54:41 +0200") Mail-Copies-To: nobody Mail-Followup-To: Clemens Fischer , ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.2 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46917 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46917 Clemens Fischer wrote: > you mean this differs after i edited it. and i think i would like to > be able to set this value. eg. i use a qmail-followup-to file to > generate the MFT from the recipients. qmail automatically compares > the addresses in To and Cc to a list of emails in this file and > generates the MFT if one of them appears in that list, but _with all > values_ in To and Cc. Gnus does the same. But suppose MFT were shown in the message buffer before you sent the message. Also suppose that you change the To/Cc fields. Now you probably want MFT to be changed as well. But MFT won't be regenereated, because there's no way to distinguish this old, automatic MFT from a manual MFT you supplied yourself. The only way to make the generated MFT be correct is for it not to be shown before you send the message. > this sounds reasonable on first sight, but it may well be that i > beeing the sender of some message already know that some of these > addresses wouldn't want a followup (copies of outgoing email needed > locally, for example). Then you want to remove them from To/Cc, not just MFT. (setq message-hierarchical-addresses '(("list@address" "subscriber1@address" ...) ...)) > Sender: for envelope info This header field is not necessarily the same as the SMTP envelope sender address. paul