From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/46304 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Paul Graham on fighting SPAM Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 22:46:42 -0400 Organization: =?koi8-r?q?=F4=C5=CF=C4=CF=D2=20=FA=CC=C1=D4=C1=CE=CF=D7?= @ Cienfuegos Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87d6sf42ys.fsf@emacswiki.org> <871y8u7un8.fsf@emacswiki.org> <87fzxa7ala.fsf@emacswiki.org> <87d6se9dsy.fsf@emacswiki.org> <87wuqd5lp9.fsf@emacswiki.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1030589126 1668 127.0.0.1 (29 Aug 2002 02:45:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 02:45:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17kFJA-0000QG-00 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 04:45:21 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17kFIE-00015g-00; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 21:44:22 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 28 Aug 2002 21:44:55 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA14149 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 21:44:42 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 7283 invoked by alias); 29 Aug 2002 02:44:01 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 7278 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2002 02:44:01 -0000 Original-Received: from ns3.beld.net (208.229.215.83) by gnus.org with SMTP; 29 Aug 2002 02:44:01 -0000 Original-Received: from heechee.beld.net (dhcp-0-50-8b-df-51-5e.cpe.beld.net [65.202.179.253]) by ns3.beld.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BFCB3BD29; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 22:43:59 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: Alex Schroeder X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Followup-To: Alex Schroeder , ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <87wuqd5lp9.fsf@emacswiki.org> (Alex Schroeder's message of "Mon, 26 Aug 2002 23:55:46 +0200") Original-Lines: 37 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.2 (i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46304 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46304 On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, alex@emacswiki.org wrote: > Has anybody used spam-stat.el at all? I must confess that I have > not yet added it to the fancy split rules myself, so perhaps we > should first start using it, before we start improving it. I have played with it, but have not had the time to do a lot. > Anyway, what shall we do with spam-stat.el, now? An ifile user > suggested I write code to reduce the dictionary size again -- > perhaps I should remove all the words occuring less than 5 times, > and all words whose spaminess is close to 0.5 (common words occuring > both in spam and non-spam), and only the first few kb of all mails > should be analyzed. Maybe I should write a sample usage that > updates the dictionary whenever you move mails into or out of the > mail.spam group. I know this is not what Teodor Zlatanov has in > mind, but at least I think I could do it myself. > Or should I just assign the copyright of spam-stat.el, then we can > move it into spam.el or whatever, and people will fix it as spam.el > gets wider usage? It's entirely up to you, as the author of spam-stat.el. I have no problem with the package remaining separate from spam.el - I will simply document the fact that users who want to use the statistics feature can download your package and do a load-library before adding its functions to the spam-split sequence or in the summary exit hooks. Judging by your first paragraph, you'd rather continue your work independently, and it would probably benefit everyone that you do so. As long as you keep me in the loop (via gnu.emacs.sources postings or e-mail) I will try to synchronize spam.el with changes that you make to functionality or function names in spam-stat.el. For those who are interested in using spam.el: I will follow up with a separate summary to ding. Ted