From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/44928 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Who sets Sender:? Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 12:03:50 -0400 Organization: What did you have in mind? A short, blunt, human pyramid? Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87bsbak1ws.fsf@nwalsh.com> <87d6vqtqnv.fsf@squeaker.lickey.com> <02May21.105936edt.119176@gateway.intersystems.com> <02May21.122206edt.119093@gateway.intersystems.com> <02May21.142858edt.119269@gateway.intersystems.com> <02May21.154121edt.119281@gateway.intersystems.com> <02May21.171141edt.119208@gateway.intersystems.com> <02May22.114919edt.119312@gateway.intersystems.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1022083402 1561 127.0.0.1 (22 May 2002 16:03:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 16:03:22 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17AYaA-0000P4-00 for ; Wed, 22 May 2002 18:03:22 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17AYaE-0007QL-00; Wed, 22 May 2002 11:03:26 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 22 May 2002 11:03:45 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA14545 for ; Wed, 22 May 2002 11:03:32 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 28162 invoked by alias); 22 May 2002 16:03:08 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 28157 invoked from network); 22 May 2002 16:03:07 -0000 Original-Received: from multivac.student.cwru.edu (HELO multivac.cwru.edu) (qmailr@129.22.96.25) by gnus.org with SMTP; 22 May 2002 16:03:07 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 21409 invoked by uid 500); 22 May 2002 16:04:12 -0000 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <02May22.114919edt.119312@gateway.intersystems.com> (Stainless Steel Rat's message of "Wed, 22 May 2002 11:54:12 -0400") Mail-Copies-To: nobody Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 36 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) Emacs/21.2 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44928 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44928 Stainless Steel Rat wrote: > * prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) on Wed, 22 May 2002 > | >> In what cases should the MUA guess that Sender is needed? ... > The MUA should attempt to deterine if a Sender header is needed for > every message sent. You're answering this question: "in what cases should the MUA guess whether Sender is needed?" That isn't the question I asked. > | You didn't answer these questions, nor many others from previous > | messages. > > Because the answers are obvious to anyone who bothers to think about them > for more than half a second. It isn't obvious to me what *your* answers are, or I wouldn't have asked them. > Failure to generate a Sender header when one is required results in > a technically incorrect message. Will that incorrectness ever cause problems? A wrong guess in the other direction can cause problems. "Correct" isn't always the best thing to be. > When is a Sender header required? When RFC 2822 says it is. ... > When should Gnus not create a Sender header? When one already > exists or RFC 2822 says no. Punting to RFC 2822 is pointless when the interpretation of RFC 2822 is itself in question. paul