From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/15150 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: No limit to cached '/ *' Date: 03 May 1998 11:41:14 -0700 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035154233 20453 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:50:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:50:33 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (gwyn.tux.org [207.96.122.8]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05857 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 11:46:51 -0700 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (root@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18368 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 14:45:21 -0400 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAH18141; Sun, 3 May 1998 13:45:30 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 03 May 1998 13:43:13 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from claymore.vcinet.com (claymore.vcinet.com [208.205.12.23]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA18128 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 13:43:03 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 5980 invoked by uid 504); 3 May 1998 18:42:42 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 5977 invoked from network); 3 May 1998 18:42:41 -0000 Original-Received: from beach.silcom.com (199.201.128.19) by claymore.vcinet.com with SMTP; 3 May 1998 18:42:41 -0000 Original-Received: from org.pri (pm6-17.sba1.avtel.net [207.71.222.67]) by beach.silcom.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20097 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 11:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "03 May 1998 18:11:06 +0200" Original-Lines: 87 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.6/Emacs 20.2 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:15150 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:15150 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > Harry Putnam writes: > > > My only point is that on the list where the instruction about using '/ *' > > appears it looks as if all you need to do is press '/ *' to limit view > > to cached only. > > It does? > > `/ v' > Limit the summary buffer to articles that have a score at or above > some score (`gnus-summary-limit-to-score'). > > vs. > > `/ *' > Display all cached articles (`gnus-summary-limit-include-cached'). > > I thought the difference here would be self-evident. OK, I guess I see your point. It doesn't say 'limit' but 'display" So the only question then is why is it on a page that is explicitly about 'Limiting?" >>From info page: > Limiting > > It can be convenient to limit the summary buffer to just show some > subset of the articles currently in the group. The effect most limit > commands have is to remove a few (or many) articles from the summary > buffer. > The name of the node is "Limiting" <===Maybe where I got the idea that the commands on that page are about limiting the view. Near as I can tell the command '/ *' does not limit in any way. Possibly the page could be broken up into commands that actually limit and commands that add to the display. I may be the only one that has ever been confused by the way it is presented. My settings are faily common I think, eg Caching turned on so that ticks and dormant are cached. This also means that cached articles that are ticked are displayed already when entering a group because of their 'Unread' status. So the only effect of pressing '/ *' is to move the cursor to a cached article. Some of my confusion has stemmed from the fact that I rarely use dormant so didn't see anything being added by pressing '/ *'. Now I see that any "hidden" cached articles are indeed displayed with '/ *'. But still not 'limited' to. > > > Pressing just '/ D' does display dormant articles > > Pressing just '/ *' does *not* display cached articles > > It does for me. When doesn't it? When cached article are not 'hidden'. Should have been: Pressing '/ m ?' does display only dormant articles Pressing '/ m * does *not* display only cached articles It displays a blank buffer. Once you get the blank buffer you can press '/ *' and have a view limited to cached only. > > *It's* *not* *supposed* *to*. *It* *doesn't* *say* *that* *it's* > *supposed* *to*. OK point taken. Maybe adding my suggestion for anyone who wants to "limit" to cached only would help. Using the '/ m' commmand with the '*' mark does work differently than with any of the other marks. After all, this section is about 'limiting the view to a 'subset'. -- Harry Putnam reader@newsguy.com