From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/73126 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Truncating lines in the article buffer Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:19:55 +0200 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Message-ID: References: <87zkuh3gfb.fsf@blah.blah> <87hbgox141.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87lj60vhek.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1287080434 10294 80.91.229.12 (14 Oct 2010 18:20:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:20:34 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M21498@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Oct 14 20:20:31 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P6SPl-0001Df-CJ for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:20:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P6SPi-00014O-Nf; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:20:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P6SPh-000148-4v for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:20:25 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P6SPc-0001JZ-MJ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:20:25 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1P6SPb-0005Vi-00 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:20:19 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P6SPY-00016W-P3 for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:20:16 +0200 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no ([84.215.34.171]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:20:16 +0200 Original-Received: from larsi by cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:20:16 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 42 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAFVBMVEULBgYGAgEKBQUJBQQI AwM3NjcJBAOWRZyZAAACS0lEQVQ4jW1TsY7jOgwktEjqM2BsLVCBap8cqF47hOo07rOywP//hDe0 42QX71jYEkecGVM0dVv0fdfsPdl6KiId9b1MW2rqntGLTJ+N/uLEkeu7V3zTs/5X2AGafiFiO5Em E0lp+g2xjp5xFilBA41DVG0iMgx+Weh0p6wzD0Q5MY+6SqWK4xwj+TPSH8TMIWrNNeaSOa8pJeeN 0rFbQ7s1XcuqWfHQyAyoMovqepHLjQNIA+saNipoJFUp5RZcyDmvigw7cmF2FSRyq4nJxTGv0TM0 2vV2ASAzV79J8hiSrYQ5VoikxPsHephkrOWKND6xst8BCAVbi9TrXFCCzbIsd5D5YNUiV9htpbLl 0RRip9hQLwVWmz5oB+5EUddqFegmRIYX4FjDCqC/Cbi0/gDG1RuVyKgK6dNBxaqbK+lFiy1fQN7s Wklp5QfgYt0qgGj7PDTwiSGbR3OF5r6oAIybxtxKk1wUidPORA5eDMBdaJmtTXsBujUmItxb0nHl Z8V+2RGv2bvALuyttbwHErHlQO50T57ewWziIy/3Zcn8Sh8Vshjwoe8S5DdXywLRj/TOO7dd+ryY 5Jtp0zDgcSd0+oc2NJKNcU6Yut/h2Igv5XR+OIpczSQmAZPFZlLJnb+I1zQ+MAMYXwDBLlqGq3zZ 3diQOR/wjjmDCh1vX1hWjGaMVlJD9agoGunhOOAnwS9ghQbCpermcExjTn5Lsx/tOyo99I+3lnh3 uD3G+FP06PsT2jfnb6P7f7jY1f3EaTlS9tDa2vCP8/8BmxGwSnPjmBwAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: Emeralds's _Does It Look Like I'm Here?_: "Genetic" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:pUsmZes+bSuIp2rI4qPIPnyyAmk= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:73126 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > Then you can't render HTML accurately with the current approach. You're > fighting Emacs at every step: the text layout is hard, you can't flow > around images, displaying images is a pain, etc. No, the only thing that's impossible is to render images in tables. The rest works pretty well. (If we'd have truncate-lines on a per-line basis, it'd be pretty darn perfect.) > Maybe we're approaching this wrong because we think a table should be > displayed like HTML does. How about unwrapping tables into lists? So > this (a 2x2 table with headers H1 and H2): > > H1 H2 > [aaa|bbb] > [ccc|ddd] > > gets rendered as > > * H1 > ** aaa > ** ccc > > * H2 > ** bbb > ** ddd I get work email that has configuration settings laid out as tables. Believe me, you won't have any idea what they're going on about unless you're actually seeing the tables as tables. I'm fine with not displaying the images in the tables. I think it's impossible* to do in Emacs, but it's not very important. Having the text be readable is, though. --- * That's a challenge. :-) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen