From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/35154 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stainless Steel Rat Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Thoughts on Message-ID generation Date: 01 Mar 2001 19:52:20 -0500 Organization: The Happy Fun Ball Brigade Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87n1b6rcq9.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <3A9EC79F.9CB38BEA@home.com> <01Mar1.174128est.115320@gateway.intersys.com> <3A9ED357.268858BD@home.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035170946 1508 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:29:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:29:06 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from lisa.math.uh.edu (lisa.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.49]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E16D049E for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:52:54 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by lisa.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAB10163; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:52:47 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 01 Mar 2001 18:52:02 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA05929 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:51:52 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from peorth.gweep.net (h0060978d8c91.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.75.115]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A62C8D049E for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:52:21 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from ratinox@localhost) by peorth.gweep.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01133; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:52:20 -0500 Original-To: "(ding)" X-Attribution: Rat In-Reply-To: <3A9ED357.268858BD@home.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Channel Islands) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Original-Lines: 30 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35154 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35154 * "David A. Cobb" on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 | I'm not sure! It's about like saying every boson in the universe is an | object. So what! How many bits do we need to count all of them? More that the idea of treating every bit of information as an object for all purpose as a panacea is not a good idea. [...] | Once we agree on how do I uniquely identify ME, The fully-qualified domain name of a host is required to be unique. If it is not then the host is misconfigured. Your login on that host is also required to be unique. If it is not then accounts are improperly managed. The time you send a message from a host is close to unique; that run through MD4 or MD5 along with some random data will be unique. If you put them all together you get a very high probability unique identifier, barring someone deliberately attempting to duplicate it. Wait... Gnus already does most of that. I'm not sure if it does the hash (time + random) bit or just hash (time). If you insist on going overboard, mash the whole message through MD5 and use that as the Message-ID string or part of it. I dunnow about CORBA's security, or lack thereof. It really isn't an issue here. Message-ID is was never intended to be "secure". -- Rat \ Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball. Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ PGP Key: at a key server near you! \